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Discord keeps walking into rakes, but TeamSpeak is thriving after 'incredible surge of new users'

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  • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

    For me, it wasn’t about the AI. It’s that early development of the game was all PvE play. PVP was something that was added at launch, and the game is tagged as PvE, along with PvP on steam. Stupid me thought there would be PvE only lobbies and I was clearly mistaken. I tried playing it, I put 100 hours in. The entire game was me grinding the easy map, to level up and craft/buy better guns, only to be shot on sight by someone and have everything I worked for taken. I would solo down bastions, leapers, and bombdiers to have someone run up and shoot me on site, without asking if I would share loot. (I would rather share than lose everything.) Events in the game also reward PvP play by awarding cred. People are making smurf accounts so they can end up in friendly matches to dominate people that don’t want to pvp. Enemy spawns are fucked up too. I’ve downed arc only for the corpses to despawn as I attempt to loot it. I’ve walked into clear areas, only to have bombadiers spawn on top of me out of nowhere. The worst part of the game is being dropped into a map/match after 10 minutes has elapsed, which means anything decent has already been looted and you’re more likely to run into people camping extraction points. They have a temp event running that rewards PvE cooperative play, and I’ve still gotten killed on site, although less frequently. After the event is over, I’ll probably uninstall the game again.

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    borari
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    Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

    I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

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      ClownFiesta
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      #142

      stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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      • borariB borari

        Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

        I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

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        washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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        The stuff I read about the play testing indicated it was PVE. I didn’t do enough research before purchasing, no argument there. I happen to actually enjoy fighting the arc, and I really enjoy when I can play co-operatively, and do things like save someone that’s pinned down by ARC, or help others down bastions, bombadiers, and matriarchs. Getting shot in the back after I’m soloing arc and my shield is down isn’t fun. Getting shot even after I say I’m friendly, and I can’t defend myself, or else trigger the algorithm to put me in more pvp matchups isn’t fun. If it was already tested as a PvE game, I don’t see why they can’t give us PVE and PVP lobbies. Letting players decide if they want to risk PVP or not.

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        • ClownFiestaR ClownFiesta

          stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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          #144

          Fluxer.app seems just slightly better.

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          • qweertz (they/she)Q qweertz (they/she)

            XMPP is an insecure mess, even if you try to bolt on the weird encryption layer

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            poVoq
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            That is a non-sense comment. Where do you even get that from? And the “weird” encryption layer is literally the Signal library.

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            • ClownFiestaR ClownFiesta

              stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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              anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
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              UK based, soon to implement identity verification, unfederated

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              • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

                why go from one corporate property to another when enshitification is the problem and libre options are available??

                tomorrow’s headline: “Teamspeak CEO excited to be working with Discord”

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                quips@slrpnk.net
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                #147

                Matrix has the best architecture by far. The only feature it lacks is high fps screenshare with audio. Right now its only acceptable for like a powerpoint presentation.

                When the update fixing that comes it will finally be ready to fully replace discord.

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                • E evotech@lemmy.world

                  Teamspeak is not a good replacement lol

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                  yeehaw
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                  #148

                  it’s what other people used to be familiar with though, so that’s probably why. also - can’t you download and host your own teamspeak server? I haven’t used it in so long I can’t remember how it works haha

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                  • B bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works

                    Matrix is actively user hostile. It’s no fun to use at all.

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                    sleepmode@lemmy.world
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                    #149

                    I’ve found it is clunky and bloated myself, but it’s slim pickins trying to cover everything users expect. Hopefully one of these add-ons makes it less… rough.

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                    • Q quips@slrpnk.net

                      Matrix has the best architecture by far. The only feature it lacks is high fps screenshare with audio. Right now its only acceptable for like a powerpoint presentation.

                      When the update fixing that comes it will finally be ready to fully replace discord.

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                      Jerkface (any/all)
                      wrote on last edited by jerkface@lemmy.ca
                      #150

                      I often fall back to Molly for video chat, the quality is superior

                      Sticking with discord for slightly better video doesn’t sound reasonable

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                      • C crashumbc@lemmy.world

                        VENT or nothing!

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                        brognak@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                        #151

                        Iirc Ventrilo doesn’t support Linux, or it’s codecs don’t. Someone please correct me if I’m wrong!

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                        • Q quips@slrpnk.net

                          Matrix has the best architecture by far. The only feature it lacks is high fps screenshare with audio. Right now its only acceptable for like a powerpoint presentation.

                          When the update fixing that comes it will finally be ready to fully replace discord.

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                          rustyj@lemmy.world
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                          #152

                          I ended up running the element-call stack for our matrix server. Has worked great for group vid calls and screen sharing so far. I don’t think it had audio for screen shares, the only item missing from your list

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                          • C yeehaw

                            it’s what other people used to be familiar with though, so that’s probably why. also - can’t you download and host your own teamspeak server? I haven’t used it in so long I can’t remember how it works haha

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                            ruxias@lemmy.world
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                            #153

                            Yes you can host your own team speak server on your own.

                            I would recommend a FLOSS alternative, to help the odds of you being able to keep it within your control. There’s a few options others have mentioned around the fediverse.

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                              nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                              #154

                              whatever happened to meeting up with your mom’s house on a bunch of folding tables in the living room

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                                vinnydacat@lemmy.world
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                                #155

                                This feels like it’s happening way too soon. Sure, at the current pace I would expect an exodus from discord eventually, but I didn’t believe that there was so many proactive people on the platform.

                                Anyway, TeamSpeak has always been great. Discord voice can be rather unstable as you add more people to a chat, or depending on the locations of the people in it.

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                                • R regedit@lemmy.zip

                                  Been on IRC for like 3-decades and is where I get my media content, mostly. Highly recommended if you give zero shits about fancy text!

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                                  auth@lemmy.world
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                                  #156

                                  how do you get media isnt it only plain text?

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                                  • C crashumbc@lemmy.world

                                    Haha pointing out the wrong use of a possessive tells me everything I need to know about you.

                                    I made fun of you because of your absolutely delusional refusal to acknowledge the extreme barriers to open source options in the current state.

                                    If you weren’t delusional, a logical response would be…

                                    We absolutely have to address these issues if we want widespread adoption of these applications to replace closed source programs.

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                                    fauxliving@lemmy.world
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                                    #157

                                    Gosh, I hope I can survive the reputation harm that I’m suffering because a faceless person(?) on the Internet has read my comments in bad faith and slaughtering their freshly created strawmen.

                                    Haha pointing out the wrong

                                    “Haha, pointing”

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                                    • F fauxliving@lemmy.world

                                      Gosh, I hope I can survive the reputation harm that I’m suffering because a faceless person(?) on the Internet has read my comments in bad faith and slaughtering their freshly created strawmen.

                                      Haha pointing out the wrong

                                      “Haha, pointing”

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                                      crashumbc@lemmy.world
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                                      #158

                                      I think you’ll survive, good day.

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                                      • N nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        whatever happened to meeting up with your mom’s house on a bunch of folding tables in the living room

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                                        whelk@retrolemmy.com
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                                        #159

                                        Those must be some big tables

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                                        • alessandro@lemmy.caA alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                                          mrtolkinghoen@lemmy.zip
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                                          #160

                                          Is mumble still a thing? It was the best for low latency and automatic mic pickup/ nouse cancelling back in the day.

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