'Knowing Steam players are hoarders explains why you give Valve that 30%,' analyst tells devs: 'You get access to a bunch of drunken sailors who spend money irresponsibly'
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My thoughts exactly
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Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and Iām sure Iāll play it eventually.
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In defense of the ādrunken sailorsā of Steam, many of the games theyāve bought are likely to still be playable for a long time, some were bought in half-yearly sales, and some were part of ābundlesā that were bought for a different game. The 30% also pays for the Content Delivery Network, marketing, a forum and sometimes moderation, and a genuine customer feedback mechanism. Who wouldnāt want to be part of an un-enshittified system? Fanboy? You bet. Iām not saying they can do no wrong, but theyāre doing a lot right.
If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end itās still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You donāt actually own any of those games.
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If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end itās still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You donāt actually own any of those games.
Technically, uh no. Many of the games I havenāt loaded onto my PC would no longer be accessible, correct. But I have a copy of Goldberg emulator, in case Valve doesnāt hold up their end of the bargain.
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Itās like gym membership or books. If everyone with gym membership would go regularly, the business wonāt be profitable. Or if everyone only buys a new book after they finish what they have bought, the publishing industry would be in shambles.
These businesses play the probability game. They are actually just insurance by a different name.
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So, youāre saying that Steam games are the stuffed animals thatāre culturally acceptable for adults to display openly.
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Technically, uh no. Many of the games I havenāt loaded onto my PC would no longer be accessible, correct. But I have a copy of Goldberg emulator, in case Valve doesnāt hold up their end of the bargain.
Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, itās all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you āboughtā is gone.
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You best be glad these sailors are drunk and laying about on their hoard. Before Steam, those sailors were pirates. Do not tempt them to set sail again.
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I wondered which studio would be bold enough to do blatantly insult an entire marketplace of potential customers, but itās just some guy.
Chris Zukowski.
I am a game marketing consultant and strategist. I have helped Games-as-a-Service companies, indie publishers, and small to single-person teams understand their audience and communicate with them in a more personal way.
Funny way to communicate with your clients audience mate, calling us all āa bunch of drunken sailorsāā¦
I specialize in optimizing your marketing for the Steam algorithm
Ah, so youāre part of the reason nothing has a soul any more. Got it.
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I have bought games on steam that I already owned and played on other platforms, just because I wanted to support the dev and have a copy on a reliable platform. But with recent developements I do wonder more and more how long it will stay reliable.
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I have bought games on steam that I already owned and played on other platforms, just because I wanted to support the dev and have a copy on a reliable platform. But with recent developements I do wonder more and more how long it will stay reliable.
What recent developments?
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I wondered which studio would be bold enough to do blatantly insult an entire marketplace of potential customers, but itās just some guy.
Chris Zukowski.
I am a game marketing consultant and strategist. I have helped Games-as-a-Service companies, indie publishers, and small to single-person teams understand their audience and communicate with them in a more personal way.
Funny way to communicate with your clients audience mate, calling us all āa bunch of drunken sailorsāā¦
I specialize in optimizing your marketing for the Steam algorithm
Ah, so youāre part of the reason nothing has a soul any more. Got it.
Bill Hicks evergreen marketing bit is as relevant now as it was in the 80s.
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What recent developments?
Probably supporting Linux and open source is now evil or so.
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If gaben decides tomorrow to shut it all down, everything is gone. They might have a lot of good will based on past behavior, but in the end itās still a company and you have zero control over what they do. You donāt actually own any of those games.
If steam shutdown it would probably mean PC gaming itself is dead and the industry is in really big trouble.
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I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.
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Then technically I am correct? If Valve just shuts down, itās all gone. You might find a workaround for some of the stuff you happen to have downloaded right now, but in general, everything you āboughtā is gone.
Technically it would be the same case for GOG too if that happened, since the average consimer doesnāt back up all the games they pay for.
In the end when it comes to digital most consumers rely on convenience and trust than taking the extra step to back up stuff so they remove the dependency.
Thatās why the actual back up for lot of people is piracy as the final line of defense and archiving.
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Yup. I bought The Forest for $2 a year ago and Iām sure Iāll play it eventually.
Play in VR if you can, amazing experience
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Heās right
Some people have huge backlogs of games they will naver be able to play, some games alone will count for hundreds of hours of playtime.
You canāt manage all them, and that platform encourages overspending
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I do have a lot of games but most of them came from big bundles from Humble Bundle.
Word. Itās not hoarding itās āyeah Iād pay $16 dollars for that one game and Iāll give a couple of others a goā. I didnāt just never get around to Kane and Lynch, I never had any interest in it.
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Barely bought anything this year because I am still finishing Factorio. 1600 hours on steam and countless more from the non steam version of the game.
The factory must grow. My SA deathworld save is up to around 3000 SPM.