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1/ Since @JohannaMakesGames was curious, here is a thread on assorted "Underworlds" from German folklore.

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  • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

    @juergen_hubert

    Tolkien's LOTR features such a lake, at the Western Gates of Moria.

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    Watcher in the Water

    "Out from the water a long sinuous tentacle had crawled; it was pale-green and luminous and wet. Its fingered end had hold of Frodo’s foot, and was dragging him into the water. Sam on his knees was now slashing at it with a knife.The arm let go of Frodo, and Sam pulled him away, crying out for...

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    @tuban_muzuru

    It's a popular theme. I mean, people in earlier centuries didn't have access to either sonar or diving equipment - so any lake where you could not see the bottom was effectively bottomless.

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    • tuban_muzuruT tuban_muzuru

      @juergen_hubert

      These are great ! I used to read the original, unexpurgated Grimm's stories to my children. They always liked the most horrible stories the most.

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      @tuban_muzuru @juergen_hubert

      Another was
      https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Bechstein
      or
      https://www.wissens-blog.12hp.de/germanische-mythologie/
      or
      Nibelungen, König Laurins Rosengarten, etc.

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      • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

        @tuban_muzuru @juergen_hubert

        Another was
        https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_Bechstein
        or
        https://www.wissens-blog.12hp.de/germanische-mythologie/
        or
        Nibelungen, König Laurins Rosengarten, etc.

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        @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

        Ludwig Bechstein was a really prolific folklorist, and I have translated quite a few of his tales.

        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_des_Frankenlandes
        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Erster_Theil
        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Vierter_Theil
        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Erster_Band
        https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Zweiter_Band

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        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

          @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

          Ludwig Bechstein was a really prolific folklorist, and I have translated quite a few of his tales.

          https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_des_Frankenlandes
          https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Erster_Theil
          https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Der_Sagenschatz_und_die_Sagenkreise_des_Th%C3%BCringerlandes_Vierter_Theil
          https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Erster_Band
          https://wiki.sunkencastles.com/wiki/Category:Bechstein_-_Th%C3%BCringer_Sagenbuch_Zweiter_Band

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          @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
          Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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          • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

            @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
            Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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            @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
            Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
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            • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

              @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
              Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
              (2)

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              @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

              I use this links list for my own research:

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              Sagen – Wikisource

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              (de.wikisource.org)

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              • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                Old books with fairy tales, legends, old stories
                (2)

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                @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                One must not forget the German Romantic period, Ludwig II Otto Friedrich Wilhelm of Bavaria (Neuschwanstein), and his court composer Richard Wagner (best known work – Ring of the Nibelung)..

                https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II._(Bavaria).

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                Richard Wagner – Wikipedia

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                • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                  @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                  One must not forget the German Romantic period, Ludwig II Otto Friedrich Wilhelm of Bavaria (Neuschwanstein), and his court composer Richard Wagner (best known work – Ring of the Nibelung)..

                  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ludwig_II._(Bavaria).

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                  Richard Wagner – Wikipedia

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                  (de.wikipedia.org)

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                  @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                  King Laurin's Rose Garden – this legend takes place in what is now South Tyrol.

                  https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nig_Laurins_Rosengarten
                  .
                  https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN729138968&PHYSID=PHYS_0007&DMDID=

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                  • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                    @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                    King Laurin's Rose Garden – this legend takes place in what is now South Tyrol.

                    https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6nig_Laurins_Rosengarten
                    .
                    https://digital.staatsbibliothek-berlin.de/werkansicht?PPN=PPN729138968&PHYSID=PHYS_0007&DMDID=

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                    @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                    An old legend from Vienna
                    Der Basilisk in der Schönlaterngasse
                    https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/wien/vonaltenhaeusern/basilisk.html
                    .
                    https://www.culturalatina.at/de/kultur/mythen-und-sagen/item/1849-der-basilisk-in-der-schoenlaterngasse
                    .
                    https://www.ganz-wien.at/lifestyle/mystery/der-raetselhafte-basilisk.html
                    .
                    https://austria-forum.org/af/Heimatlexikon/Basilisk
                    ..
                    Der Basilisk – Tödliches, schlangenhaftes Ungeheuer
                    https://www.mittelalter-leben.de/mythen-legenden/basilisk/
                    .

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                    • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                      @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                      An old legend from Vienna
                      Der Basilisk in der Schönlaterngasse
                      https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/wien/vonaltenhaeusern/basilisk.html
                      .
                      https://www.culturalatina.at/de/kultur/mythen-und-sagen/item/1849-der-basilisk-in-der-schoenlaterngasse
                      .
                      https://www.ganz-wien.at/lifestyle/mystery/der-raetselhafte-basilisk.html
                      .
                      https://austria-forum.org/af/Heimatlexikon/Basilisk
                      ..
                      Der Basilisk – Tödliches, schlangenhaftes Ungeheuer
                      https://www.mittelalter-leben.de/mythen-legenden/basilisk/
                      .

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                      @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                      Just think of all the legends there are in the Weinviertel region of Lower Austria!
                      https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/weinviertel/sagen_noe_weinviertel.htm

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                      • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                        @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                        Just think of all the legends there are in the Weinviertel region of Lower Austria!
                        https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/oesterreich/niederoesterreich/weinviertel/sagen_noe_weinviertel.htm

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                        @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                        I haven't read any of the collections about Lower Austria yet, but they are on my list.

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                        • Jürgen HubertJ Jürgen Hubert

                          @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                          I haven't read any of the collections about Lower Austria yet, but they are on my list.

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                          @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                          More about legends
                          https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/sagen.htm
                          .
                          https://www.sagen.at/doku/Haymon_tb/Schoenste_Sagen.html
                          .
                          https://www.sagen.at/doku/Innsbruck_Sagenbuch/Innsbrucker_Sagenbuch.html
                          .
                          https://www.sagen.at/doku/gullibuch/Gullibuch.html
                          .
                          sagen.at is a very interesting and comprehensive source. It goes beyond the German-speaking world.

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                          • Fred_S_at (main)F Fred_S_at (main)

                            @juergen_hubert @tuban_muzuru
                            More about legends
                            https://www.sagen.at/texte/sagen/sagen.htm
                            .
                            https://www.sagen.at/doku/Haymon_tb/Schoenste_Sagen.html
                            .
                            https://www.sagen.at/doku/Innsbruck_Sagenbuch/Innsbrucker_Sagenbuch.html
                            .
                            https://www.sagen.at/doku/gullibuch/Gullibuch.html
                            .
                            sagen.at is a very interesting and comprehensive source. It goes beyond the German-speaking world.

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                            @Fred_S_at @tuban_muzuru

                            It is, and I have read it in the past.

                            However, for copyright reasons I stick to digital scans of public domain works these days. I put my translations under a #CreativeCommons Zero license, but the legality of doing so is tricky if the copyright status of the source material is unclear.

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