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Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

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  • ZimmieB Zimmie

    @evacide Abolish ICE is too wishy-washy. I would much prefer to see calls to *prosecute* ICE.

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    @evacide

    Professional Cadillac liberal Tim Walz threw that option away at his press conference.

    There is no criminal immunity for immigration enforcement. They have to follow state criminal law. A former federal running mate chose to not run again then chose to capitulate when he had to do his job. What were you expecting from him?

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    • evacideE evacide

      Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

      "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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      Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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      @evacide fr. I saw the headline and I was like, ok, what no-name substack is this.... 😐

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      • evacideE evacide

        Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

        "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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        @evacide i think the issue must be cut more deep.

        Us citizen must abolish all Insitution and rebuild them from the gound to prevent this to appen again.

        If not it's just waiting this happen again (if you manage to prevent trump from becoming president for life, because seen from here with only 2 no king in a year, it's become more and more likely).

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        • evacideE evacide

          Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

          "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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          Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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          @evacide They are like the IDF using the same techniques;, must be abolished and prosecuted.

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          • evacideE evacide

            Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

            "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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            Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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            @evacide
            I want way more than impeachment. This is happening because feckless democrats let everything Trump and his minions did last time slide. Trump, Noem, and all the rest at the top need to be in prison - because they have broken our laws and violated our Constitution and because if we don't they (#GOP) will continue to be emboldened to continue to break our laws and violate our Constitution.
            And honestly, it is past time to abolish and ban the #GOP. Other countries have banned political parties that were a threat to their existence and I believe the entire @GOP has clearly proven they are a threat to our country's existence.

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            • evacideE evacide

              Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

              "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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              Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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              @evacide Read some post on FB making fun of this #murder. And they got likes....USA, you got a problem. A mother got killed by US gestapo and some ugly americans support it. Including the MAGA goverment. Everything is so wrong. R.I.P

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              • evacideE evacide

                Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                @evacide Even a simple upgrade to making Behavioral Science core education, seems further and further from reach.

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                • evacideE evacide

                  Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                  "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                  Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                  @evacide I prefer #AbolishDHS but #AbolishICE is an acceptable short-term compromise.

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                  • evacideE evacide

                    Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                    "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                    Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                    @evacide Techdirt's been a consistent critic of ICE, though during the Obama years they focused more on ICE's abuse of copyright enforcement than its abuse of people with brown skin.

                    Tim Cushing's their main guy covering abusive behavior by law enforcement; here's the first Trump-era post I can find about ICE abusing immigrants, from May 2017:

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                    ICE Using Stingrays To Track Down Immigrants Because Of Course It Is

                    As information about police use of cell tower spoofers began leaking out, those who had kept the public (including defendants, judges, and even some prosecutors) out of the loop began defending their use of domesticated military technology. They said pay no attention to the possible civil liberties violations. Just think of all the good they're…

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                    First example I can find of them using the phrase "abolish ICE" is from 2024, but I think the sentiment was always there.

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                      @evacide Techdirt's been a consistent critic of ICE, though during the Obama years they focused more on ICE's abuse of copyright enforcement than its abuse of people with brown skin.

                      Tim Cushing's their main guy covering abusive behavior by law enforcement; here's the first Trump-era post I can find about ICE abusing immigrants, from May 2017:

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                      As information about police use of cell tower spoofers began leaking out, those who had kept the public (including defendants, judges, and even some prosecutors) out of the loop began defending their use of domesticated military technology. They said pay no attention to the possible civil liberties violations. Just think of all the good they're…

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                      First example I can find of them using the phrase "abolish ICE" is from 2024, but I think the sentiment was always there.

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                      @Thad I am talking very specifically about "abolish ICE" here.

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                      • evacideE evacide

                        Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                        "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                        Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                        @evacide not only abolish, But ALL members of ICE should go immediately to trial.

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                        • evacideE evacide

                          Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                          "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                          Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                          @evacide tech dirt is certainly special. They spelt it out didn’t they that they were a political blog now that one time long ago.

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                            @evacide tech dirt is certainly special. They spelt it out didn’t they that they were a political blog now that one time long ago.

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                            @OliviaVespera To be clear, I am now and have always been a Mike Masnick fangirl. I am very impressed with the way that Techdirt has stepped up to meet this moment, especially when so many mainstream publications have not.

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                              Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                              "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                              Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                              @evacide apparently it's already too late

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                              • evacideE evacide

                                Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                                "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                                Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                                @evacide I remember reading a lot of news about Google employees' internal protests against contracts with ICE and DHS, I think, 10+ years ago, deeply surprised that such talented and lucky software people escalate such seemingly nuanced issues out of their professional lane (as perceived by foreigner).

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                                  @evacide I remember reading a lot of news about Google employees' internal protests against contracts with ICE and DHS, I think, 10+ years ago, deeply surprised that such talented and lucky software people escalate such seemingly nuanced issues out of their professional lane (as perceived by foreigner).

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                                  @autkin ICE and DHS rely on tools built by the tech industry, an industry where immigrants are a significant and essential part of the labor force. This is very much in their lane.

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                                  • evacideE evacide

                                    Ten years ago, if someone had told me that tech policy bloggers would be calling for ICE to be abolished, I would have thought it very unlikely.

                                    "Abolish ICE" is an increasingly mainstream and extremely correct position.

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                                    Renee Nicole Good was a 37-year-old award-winning poet, a mother of a six-year-old, and a wife who had recently moved to Minneapolis. That all ended yesterday when a masked ICE agent murdered her in broad daylight, shooting her multiple times at close range in the head. She had stuffed animal toys in the glove box…

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                                    @evacide I'm also partial to the musical techs doing anarchism:
                                    https://youtube.com/shorts/a5YxMCnUuTY?si=-JkrJSKafiDhQ8x8

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                                    • evacideE evacide

                                      @autkin ICE and DHS rely on tools built by the tech industry, an industry where immigrants are a significant and essential part of the labor force. This is very much in their lane.

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                                      @evacide sure, I mean it was my immature perspective back then

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                                      • Andriy UtkinA Andriy Utkin

                                        @evacide sure, I mean it was my immature perspective back then

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                                        @autkin I appreciate the clarification.

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                                        • evacideE evacide

                                          @OliviaVespera To be clear, I am now and have always been a Mike Masnick fangirl. I am very impressed with the way that Techdirt has stepped up to meet this moment, especially when so many mainstream publications have not.

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                                          @evacide @OliviaVespera

                                          But it is interesting that wired magazine, which I never considered way back in the day to do the kind of reporting they’ve done quite a lot seem to be filling those empty shoes

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