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Larian Studios defends Valve: Steam's success is deserved

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  • Tywèle [she|her]T Tywèle [she|her]

    Competition keeps them honest, and right now we need more real contenders, not just storefronts throwing money at exclusives.

    Then the competition should put in the work.

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    honytawk@feddit.nl
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    The competition is at work, but too many fanboys blindly bashing on anything that isn’t Steam is making it very hard for them.

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      honytawk@feddit.nl
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      You think there aren’t a bunch of greedy finance whores biding their time until Gabe dies in order to take over and enshitify everything so they can squeeze as much money out of Steam as possible?

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      • F FishFace

        Are we using the same product? There’s a vast array of quality tags that seem to genuinely work to find stuff?

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        stephen01king
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        You can’t filter using more than one tag as an “and” filter, only “or”. That’s pretty basic for a filter feature, isn’t it? It’s just surprising given how well implemented other Steam features had been in my experience.

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          I only buy games on Steam, GOG and ItchIO. The main reason I don’t give a cent to stores from EA, Ubisoft or Epic Games anymore is their services and terms are horrible. I’m all in for supporting competition when it’s good competition.

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          thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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          I would buy from GOG too, if they provided Linux support in form of an official launcher. And if available also official Linux builds. Back in the days GOG did that, but they stopped doing it. And before someone comes after me, I know there are alternative launchers on Linux. But I don’t want to give GOG money for work others doing it for free. I don’t want support a company who only cares about Windows.

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          • H honytawk@feddit.nl

            The competition is at work, but too many fanboys blindly bashing on anything that isn’t Steam is making it very hard for them.

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            koboldcoterie@pawb.social
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            Which competition are you referring to?

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              thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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              I’m a fan of Valve and Steam too. But you cannot deny that Valve does shitty stuff too. In example Valve is the company who either invented or popularized Loot Boxes. And they don’t do anything about the Black Market for the item trading and selling, such as Counter Strike skins and so on. And there are other little things that could be done, but nothing else upsets me as this.

              But besides that, for the most part I love Valve. The commitment to support on Linux is unmatched in the gaming world. As a private company, Valve can do whatever they want. I genuinely think that PC gaming wouldn’t be this good without Valve. If anything, Microsoft would have the power… which in an alternate universe people have to suffer.

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              • S stephen01king

                You can’t filter using more than one tag as an “and” filter, only “or”. That’s pretty basic for a filter feature, isn’t it? It’s just surprising given how well implemented other Steam features had been in my experience.

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                fizz@lemmy.nz
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                #44

                He wasnt talking about search it was about algorithmic recommendation.

                But you can filter by multiple tags. When you click search select the advanced search at the bottom of the dropdown. It does all the things you mention and far more

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                • N njm1314@lemmy.world

                  Not and keep their listing in Steam they can’t.

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                  exu
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                  You can though

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                  • P phineaz@feddit.org

                    I think you’re not allowed to “sell” it for free with the same version and features. Which should be unsurprising.

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                    Krita is open source but paid on Steam

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                    • cosmicpancake@sh.itjust.worksC cosmicpancake@sh.itjust.works

                      Larian isn’t wrong, Steam mostly works. Stable client, refunds, workshop, Proton, massive userbase and tools that actually help developers and players. A lot of other stores still feel half-baked next to that.

                      But deserved != harmless. Valve has way too much power, discovery is a dumpster fire, and their communication and policy decisions can be arbitrary. Dominance like that rewards sloppiness and makes it harder for better alternatives to gain traction.

                      So yeah, Steam earned its place, but I do not want any one company owning PC gaming. Competition keeps them honest, and right now we need more real contenders, not just storefronts throwing money at exclusives.

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                      geth@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      Looking at how other tech areas have all consolidated into monopolies or oligopolies, valve is the best case scenario for PC gaming.

                      Imagine anyone else being in control. Activision? EA? Ubisoft? The gaming industry is not immune from disgusting money hungry corporations stepping on the users to squeeze out every little penny they can. Valve has never done this and has kept others in check for the longest time. The day we lose the current version of Valve will be disastrous for the industry, I’m pretty sure.

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                      • thingsiplay@beehaw.orgT thingsiplay@beehaw.org

                        I would buy from GOG too, if they provided Linux support in form of an official launcher. And if available also official Linux builds. Back in the days GOG did that, but they stopped doing it. And before someone comes after me, I know there are alternative launchers on Linux. But I don’t want to give GOG money for work others doing it for free. I don’t want support a company who only cares about Windows.

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                        Domi
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                        I bought Resident Evil 0 on GOG yesterday but Heroic wouldn’t download the game for some reason (stuck at 0%). Refunded, got it on Steam for cheaper and it launched right away.

                        Sometimes I purchase on GOG out of principle and for some reason they always punish me for it.

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                        • P phineaz@feddit.org

                          I think you’re not allowed to “sell” it for free with the same version and features. Which should be unsurprising.

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                          gwl@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          You can, and plenty do

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                          • thingsiplay@beehaw.orgT thingsiplay@beehaw.org

                            I would buy from GOG too, if they provided Linux support in form of an official launcher. And if available also official Linux builds. Back in the days GOG did that, but they stopped doing it. And before someone comes after me, I know there are alternative launchers on Linux. But I don’t want to give GOG money for work others doing it for free. I don’t want support a company who only cares about Windows.

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                            damage@feddit.it
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                            In the past, before Proton, if a game was available at comparable prices on GOG and on Steam, I’d buy it on GOG, also because no DRM meant better compatibility. After Proton, my purchases from GOG went way down.

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                            • S skunkworkz@lemmy.world

                              He should turn it into a non-profit right before he dies and put the ip under a foundation or something so it can’t be sold off in pieces.

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                              damage@feddit.it
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                              OpenAI is a non-profit

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                              • M mindbleach@sh.itjust.works

                                While many accuse Valve of monopolising the PC gaming market, others argue that Steam’s dominance is simply the result of doing things right.

                                These assertions do not contradict. I cannot overstress that.

                                This whole article is ‘Valve’s monopoly is fine because they did things right.’

                                Having one good store is not, in itself, a problem. But it does mean we’re one fuckup away from having no good stores.

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                                nixus
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                                Gaben doing nothing wrong, competitions shooting themselves in the foot

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                                • H honytawk@feddit.nl

                                  The competition is at work, but too many fanboys blindly bashing on anything that isn’t Steam is making it very hard for them.

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                                  zerohora@lemmy.ml
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                                  The only competition is GOG and they will never succeed with DRM free for the big AAA. Epic succeeding is the worst case scenario

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                                  • Tywèle [she|her]T Tywèle [she|her]

                                    Competition keeps them honest, and right now we need more real contenders, not just storefronts throwing money at exclusives.

                                    Then the competition should put in the work.

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                                    shinkantrain@lemmy.ml
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                                    That’s hard to do when Steam has all but cornered the market. Say what you will about Epic’s ineptitude, but even investing billions, the publisher of the biggest game ever can’t break into the market. Now imagine how hard it’d be for a smaller player.

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                                    • S skunkworkz@lemmy.world

                                      He should turn it into a non-profit right before he dies and put the ip under a foundation or something so it can’t be sold off in pieces.

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                                      dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                                      He wont though

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                                        So tencent or a saudi prince buys them and it will be fine guyyyyssss haha

                                        Nothing ever bad happens under private ownership either right?

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                                        • fizz@lemmy.nzF fizz@lemmy.nz

                                          Is discovery a dumpster fire? I mean sure it could be better but I dont think its a dumpster fire. It seems there are constantly new small team indie games doing wild numbers on the platform. If discovery was truely bad we would be seeing the charts dominated by big studios.

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                                          shinkantrain@lemmy.ml
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                                          As a player, I feel like discovery is great. I found literally dozens of interesting games just by scrolling down the main page.

                                          I don’t know how it’s for devs, but it’s probably all but impossible to get traction if you’re just throwing your game in there, Fests being a compromised solution to an impossible problem

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