@Taskerland They used to do sociogrammatic analysis of crime before computers could model that much more effectively - I've always thought on paper it was a good style for seeing interactions between subgroups and motivations.

Also probably a bit of an ask from most modern RPG writers.

@Printdevil I can't parse those social maps easily. I'd probably find them easier if the social map were an overlay onto the space: big Ventrue in the centre, childer round the office spaces, and so on.

It limits kindred beef to physical proximity but that'd make sense.

Or to be more feudal, all land belongs to the prince, three childer lease thirds of the city, and so on, with sub-tennants all the way down.
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Isn't that because you can only walk sideways though?

@malin @Taskerland

@Printdevil vampires only snip sideways, according to the card game. Maybe Methuselahs are crabs?
@Taskerland

Methuselahs are Crabs is a very early nineties guitar led band name.

@malin @Taskerland

@malin @Taskerland

@Printdevil @malin @Taskerland according to most VTM write ups Methuselahs are Crabby.

Their hearing aids probably play weird boot up music jingles.

@Alexander_Anotherskip_Davis @malin @Taskerland

@Printdevil @malin @Taskerland with bubbles.

@SJohnRoss Hahaha you are always horrified!

@SJohnRoss Where did I go wrong?

@SJohnRoss So I drank the Kool Aid... Fair comment. So who did defining a place in terms of people before Chicago by Night?

@SJohnRoss My sense is that while the amount of detail lavished on NPCs waxed and wained between systems and modules, they were generally 'people in specific places' prior to CbN.

I will grant you that I am not sure WW realised what they had done and later By Night books (even the good ones) walked the idea back but I think it was a fresh approach at the time that has been half-forgotten since.