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Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

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  • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

    RE: https://ec.social-network.europa.eu/@EUCommission/115865514665481624

    @peter_slwk Not so silent: https://mastodon.online/@EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu/115865514632404837 (watch especially the video)

    @Daojoan

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    @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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    • CrazyDogLadySezPEACEH CrazyDogLadySezPEACE

      @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Yackety yack. They wouldn’t even call it Child Sexual Abuse Material, they went with “spicy”. Spokespeople can take a seat until they are announcing legal action enforcing the law. 🫩

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      @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

      Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

      @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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      • Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊T Jennifer Kayla | Theogrin 🦊

        @Daojoan

        Perhaps my favourite 'Musk and Free Speech' moment, the one to be shared with the class, is when he sought to legally compel advertisers to buy time on his garbage fire social media app, after it transpired that advertisers don't like their ads being associated with Nazis.

        And advertising is the most banal, empty, facile form of speech, but by compelling groups to provide representation on his platform it forever showed that free speech, actually free, is not something Musk will ever support.

        Which makes his supporters trying to claim CSAM as a first amendment thing... just ring a little more hollow. (Also? Ew.)

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        @theogrin @Daojoan

        Elon seems to go with a very unique definition of free speech: I do whatever I fucking feel like

        High status males like himself should rule the world. And he thinks very highly of his status.

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        • Court Cantrell prefers not toC Court Cantrell prefers not to

          @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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          @courtcan @Daojoan

          They run the government.

          I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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          • Petra van CronenburgN Petra van Cronenburg

            @Heartofcoyote Watch the video before yackety-yacking me (spicy mode was a quote, they forgot the " " in the post). It is a post about the work to enforce the law!

            Some European countries also check for a possible ban of X. What does your country do?

            @peter_slwk @Daojoan

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            @NatureMC @peter_slwk @Daojoan Vote for fascists apparently. I just want to see laws enforced appropriately and without violence. 😕🫩

            And to be clear, the yackety-yack was directed at the EU post not you.

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            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

              Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

              Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

              I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

              I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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              @Daojoan some weird kind of ”masculinity” as strategy.

              Or perhaps it’s simply sadism. 🤷‍♂️

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              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                @Daojoan some thoughts on "what the fuck is wrong with these assholes."

                First, to them it's abstract and personal. Free speech is for them, not you. Free speech is their right not to be affected by anything, not others. They simply don't care, and probably enjoy the controversy.

                Secondly, let's be honest, when people are bang alongside a CSAM engine we know who they are and WHAT they are.

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                • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                  @courtcan @Daojoan

                  They run the government.

                  I don’t call it epstein nation for nothing. He was plumbing to these people, and there are lots more of them doing exactly what he did right now. Of the files that have been released, made that clear mentioning 10 co-conspirators.

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                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                  Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                  • StevenSavage (he/him)S StevenSavage (he/him)

                    @GhostOnTheHalfShell @courtcan @Daojoan

                    Basically the QAnoners elected the pedophile cabal they claimed to be fighting then went silent. When they weren't covering it up.

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                    @StevenSavage @courtcan @Daojoan

                    Which is why I say they pulled the trigger. They pulled the trigger on Renee Good. And they are collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein.

                    Found them with the accusation and make them defend themselves. There’s no point letting this slide out of ingrained politeness.

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                    • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                      Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                      Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                      I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                      I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                      @Daojoan something something Charlie Kirk

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                      • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                        Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                        Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                        I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                        I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                        @Daojoan
                        I really dig you voice, fwiw.
                        merci beaucoups for being a mensch

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                        • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                          Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                          Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                          I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                          I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                          @Daojoan lack of consequences

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                          • Peter HP Peter H

                            @Daojoan In an EU where policy makers scream they want to stop CSAM and so they want backdoors on phones and scanning tools to detect what you are sending in your chats, it's good to know we can always move to Twitter / X to message eachother because there's no move whatsoever to stop this.

                            Yes there has been a bit of news 5 days ago, but it remains silent now.

                            They're scared of a rich man.

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                            @peter_slwk @Daojoan for E2E encrypted chat from a non-shit platform, Signal. For reasonably usable IM experience if your ethics are flexible, Telegram. If you're fully in favour of your own private space, Matrix. Alternatively, many people have moved to Bsky or even Threads. X in its current state should not be considered an acceptable platform to migrate to.

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                            • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                              Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                              Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                              I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                              I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                              @Daojoan @lisamelton Concise!

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                              • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                @Daojoan @garthderby @Viss

                                WRT: What the fuck is wrong with these people?

                                Sociopathy. The total lack of restraints only intergenerational affluence can buy.

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                                • GhostOnTheHalfShellG GhostOnTheHalfShell

                                  @StevenSavage @courtcan @Daojoan

                                  Which is why I say they pulled the trigger. They pulled the trigger on Renee Good. And they are collaborators of Jeffrey Epstein.

                                  Found them with the accusation and make them defend themselves. There’s no point letting this slide out of ingrained politeness.

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                                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell @StevenSavage @Daojoan I am fucking sick of being polite about any of this.

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                                  • JA WestenbergD JA Westenberg

                                    Free speech is when you let people say controversial things.

                                    Free speech is not when the world’s richest man builds a CSAM generator, hooks it up to the world’s largest public photo database, and gives 4chan a subscription service.

                                    I’ve written thousands of words defending people’s right to be wrong on the internet.

                                    I don’t need thousands of words for this. I have eight: what the fuck is wrong with these assholes.

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                                    @Daojoan I used to admire Musk for his achievements but now I pity him as he has become completely amoral, how can he justify allowing woman and kids to be undressed using AI as an attack on freedom of speech.

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                                    • Court Cantrell prefers not toC Court Cantrell prefers not to

                                      @Daojoan My much longer twenty-three: they have always been misogynists and pedophiles, and now our government has given them free rein to do whatever the hell they want.

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                                      @courtcan @Daojoan
                                      Same in Hungary. Shame.

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                                      • VissV Viss

                                        @Daojoan lack of consequences

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                                        @Viss fire extinguisher on fire

                                        #ALT4you

                                        Spot on analogy btw

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                                        • G gregory pym

                                          @Daojoan I used to admire Musk for his achievements but now I pity him as he has become completely amoral, how can he justify allowing woman and kids to be undressed using AI as an attack on freedom of speech.

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                                          @GregPym @Daojoan

                                          The funny thing about Musk's achievements is that the further you look into them with a careful eye, the less impressive they are -- from the word 'go', even. Tesla wasn't his to begin, he took it over. The Boring Company was a scam to keep public transit out of the Bay Area. SpaceX is bringing us headlong into a case of Kessler Syndrome. And the less said about Xhitter, the better.

                                          His only undeniable achievement is convincing the world for a brief period that he's a sooper-genius.

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