Larian's head writer has a simple answer for how AI-generated text helps development: 'It doesn't,' thanks to its best output being 'a 3/10 at best' worse than his worst drafts
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I remember reading a longer post on lemmy. The person was describing their slow realization that the political beliefs they were raised with were leading down a dark path. It was a process that took many years, and the story was full of little moments where cracks in his world view widened and the seed of doubt grew.
And someone who was bored/overwhelmed with having to read a post over three sentences long fed the story into AI to make a short summary. They then posted that summary as a “fixed your post, bro” moment. So basically all the humanity removed. Reminds me of that famous “If the Gettysburg Address were a PowerPoint” https://norvig.com/Gettysburg/
That’s really sad.
I’ve used AI to help clean up my sentence structure for copy, but if I am not super explicit with it to not rewrite what I wrote, it will do as you said and take the human element out of it.
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Even in programming there are common feature frameworks. Having a system enumerate them based on a unified design vision from a single source architect rather than 50 different design ideas duct taped together could help a lot. I’ve seen some horrendous systems where you can tell a bunch of totally separate visions were frankenstein’d together, and the same happens in games where you can tell different groups wrote different sections.
I’ve seen some horrendous systems where you can tell a bunch of totally separate visions were frankenstein’d together
My experience has been that using AI only accelerates this process, because the AI has no concept of what good architecture is or how to reduce entropy. Unless you can one-shot the entire architecture, it’s going to immediately go off the rails. And if the architecture was that simple to begin with, there really wasn’t much value in the AI in the first place.
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Larian's head writer has a simple answer for how AI-generated text helps development: 'It doesn't,' thanks to its best output being 'a 3/10 at best' worse than his worst drafts
My worst drafts are a 5/10 but I might have lower standards.
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More Larian Aura farming. Please take a break you’re already full maxed out for community respect its actually getting unfair for other game developers.
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I think the reason so many AI bros are conservative is that conservatives have historically had really bad taste in art/media, so they see the drivel AI creates and think, “oh wow, it looks just like what the artists make,” not realizing that they don’t have the eye to see what it’s missing.
Behind the Bastards had a different take. A lot of fascist movements get wierdly focussed on futurism and try to portray their movements as belonging in said future. Unfortunately I can’t remember the exact episodes this was mentioned
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You’re absolutely right, Lisa!
Anyway, how is your sex life?
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That’s the difference between an amateur writer and a professional writer.
Wow, look, a professional right here! Must have a high job insecurity to care about “machines took our jooobs”. Grow up and realise a POC solution is better than no solution, like products don’t ever get rewritten, lol.
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AI is just a marketing term, there’s nothing intelligent about it. Its simply Large Language Models, databases that predict what should go next. Its like asking the prediction bar when you are typing to write a story.
It isn’t though. It’s a thing that makes shit. And it makes shit well enough that execs seriously consider it. Even though it can only make a commercial 60% as good as humans can, that’s good enough. Because AI can make 10 commercials in the same time traditional creators can make 1. It doesn’t matter how bad the ai commercials are because they can overwhelm any competition in sheer abundance. AI ads will drown out traditional ads. They are easier to make and are infinitely customisable. I can make 10 new ads a day for less than it would cost to make a single traditional ad. There really is no comparison
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Aand you end up with… ta-da-m, same old things, just rebranded. Very creative (no)
What the heck is a ta-da-m? It sounds like some kind of exotic medication 🤭
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Not even necessarily a human being! I’d appreciate the fuck out of art if any species made it. But there must be more than uncaring, unfeeling, probabilistic interpretation of input data.
Hell yeah, otherkin inclusive language
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It isn’t though. It’s a thing that makes shit. And it makes shit well enough that execs seriously consider it. Even though it can only make a commercial 60% as good as humans can, that’s good enough. Because AI can make 10 commercials in the same time traditional creators can make 1. It doesn’t matter how bad the ai commercials are because they can overwhelm any competition in sheer abundance. AI ads will drown out traditional ads. They are easier to make and are infinitely customisable. I can make 10 new ads a day for less than it would cost to make a single traditional ad. There really is no comparison
Because AI can make 10 commercials in the same time traditional creators can make 1
Famously Cola Christmas commercial took more time and money to create than a traditional ad would?
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Not to mention inertia from studio rep. I’d buy Bethesda hotdog water at some points for those studio. Now they could promise me head from a talented hooker with a clean record and I’d still probally pass cause Id probally just end 39 hours sore, blueballed, and being asked for the next payment.
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What the heck is a ta-da-m? It sounds like some kind of exotic medication 🤭
Boring part: an exclamation meaning “there it is”
/boring mode off
hell, I want a medication with such a name now
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Boring part: an exclamation meaning “there it is”
/boring mode off
hell, I want a medication with such a name now
I’ve literally never heard it with a -m before. Usually it’s just “tada”.
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Yes, this is it right here. The whole point of art is communication and connection with another human being.
Eh not always, hell I wouldn’t even say it is most of the time.
Art for OTHERS is for communicating.
Art for yourself is everything from glorified shit to slop to trash to works of art, and soul searching .
Art for marketing is better low effort and shot gunned more often then not and that has actual science to back it up.
Art in the grand scheme of things is God damn fucking anything. Meaning or no meaning. Soul or no soul.
Heaven knows iv spent days on clay works that I just toss cause they existed for nothing more then something to do. Iv made paintings that iv proudly hung in my wall. While others I could barely give to shits about and frankly a random ai genned img would have more artistic merit in its prompt then the slop I shat onto the canvas.
Trying to dictate what is and isn’t art always makes you wrong with out expectation. Everything is art no matter what. The only value in art is what each person says it has to them and nothing more or less.
That’s the neat part AI art has value if nothing more then purely utilitarian value. But only if you give it value.
Just as most people don’t value modern art or a fucking banana nailed to a wall. Most won’t give AI art value. And that’s fine.
The problem is everyone fucking trying to say it has value, just as much as everyone saying it doesn’t.
You CANT dictate what art has value to others. Period.
I personally don’t see value in AI art. It’s just a thing that exist. Fuck copyright and really the problem argument anyone ever fucking has over AI art is copy right related. So who the fuck cares, copyright should be abolished anyways it’s God damn fucking stupid.
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I doubt that. A lot of the poor writing quality comes down to choice. All the most powerful models are inherently trained to be bland, seek harmony with the user, and generally come across as kind of slimy in a typically corporate sort of way. This bleeds into the writing style pretty heavily.
A model trained specifically for creative writing without such a focus would probably do better. We’ll see.
I mean look at a hobby project like neuro sama vs chat gpt.
It’s rather night and day difference in terms of responses and humanity.
While neuro and her sister both come across as autistic 7 year olds. They still come across as mostly human autistic 7 year olds. They have their moments they just lose it, which every LLM has.
But comparing them it’s really really obvious how many of the problems with the inhumanity and blandness is a choice of large companies to have the LLMs be marketable and corpo friendly.
In a world where these models could be trained and allowed to actually have human ish responses and focus on being “normal” instead of sterile robots. They would at least be way more fun.
Not much more reliable mind you. But at least they would be fun.
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The dialog pushing AI media seems to start from this assumption that I consume media just to have colors and words and sounds enter my face holes. In fact, I consume art and media because I like hearing, seeing, and reading about how other humans experience the same world I do. It’s a form of communication. I like the product but also the process of people trying to capture the bonkers, ineffable experience we all seem to be sharing in ways I would never think of, but can instantly verify.
What’s funny is, due to the nature of media, it’s kind of impossible to not communicate something, even if the artwork itself is empty. When I see AI media I see the communication of a mind that doesn’t know or give a shit about any of this. So in their attempt make filler they are in fact making art about how inarticulate they are. It’s unintentional, corporate dadaism.
While I fully agree with you regarding my reasons to consume media, I’m not so sure if that’s actually a majority opinion. I get the impression that for a lot of people, the point of consuming media is actually just entertainment, something to take your mind off other things, and they don’t care about the communication and connection aspect.
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Behind the Bastards had a different take. A lot of fascist movements get wierdly focussed on futurism and try to portray their movements as belonging in said future. Unfortunately I can’t remember the exact episodes this was mentioned
Ooh yes I think this was mentioned in one of the nazi germany episodes, where they really had a thing for electricity. Maybe the next person can narrow it down further.
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Behind the Bastards had a different take. A lot of fascist movements get wierdly focussed on futurism and try to portray their movements as belonging in said future. Unfortunately I can’t remember the exact episodes this was mentioned
AI: The New Aesthetics of Fascism
AI: The New Aesthetics of Fascism
Tommy Robinson tweets an image of soldiers walking into the ocean on D-Day. Britain First’s co-leader produces imagery of Muslim men laughing at sad white girls on public transport. An AI-generated song combining kitsch schlager pop with crude racial stereotypes makes it into the German top fifty and becomes number three on Spotify’s global viral chart. Benjamin Netanyahu conjures a vision of an ethnically-cleansed Gaza connected by bullet train to the equally ephemeral Neom. Keir Starmer’s Lab…
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Wow, look, a professional right here! Must have a high job insecurity to care about “machines took our jooobs”. Grow up and realise a POC solution is better than no solution, like products don’t ever get rewritten, lol.
We are talking about quality of writing fiction. There’s nothing wrong with being an amateur, but being rude when a professional has a higher skill cap than you is just kind of sad. This man has likely honed his craft over 10s of thousands of hours, respect that. You’ve basically told me that when you see someone just beginning to practice a skill you have honed you can’t tell a difference, or you lack the ability to transfer that concept to a skill you are unpracticed in. If you feel that this is still hard to understand, try reading the Eragon series then LotR. Both fun reads, but you can tell that one was written by someone early in their writing carrier vs later.
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Behind the Bastards had a different take. A lot of fascist movements get wierdly focussed on futurism and try to portray their movements as belonging in said future. Unfortunately I can’t remember the exact episodes this was mentioned
Makes sense when you think about it
You’re running an oppressive dictatorship. You still need enough people to support you to keep the thing going. What do you do? Make a bunch of people believe you’re going to improve their lives. How do you do that? First, you find an enemy to blame for everything. For Nazi Germany it was Jews, for the US now it’s mostly Latinos, but really all foreigners. But that alone might not be enough. So what else do you do? Pretend you’re doing everything economically and technologically to make things better for “the right people”.
