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"This is a blatant, unapologetic act of vicious union busting" - Hundreds of Rockstar employees sign letter to management, demanding fired colleagues get reinstated

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  • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

    I’m not judging people by stating that certain strategies don’t work.

    It would be judge-y if I stated that they were stupid for believing such a thing. Which was not my intention at all.

    Not buying a game is by definition inaction. It’s not the fault of the people that this is the only way left for them to “protest”. But as I said: it’s also not a moral imperative to do anything, if you’re not able to.

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    nima@leminal.space
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    Why do you care so much about someone deciding not to buy a game as a result of this? I would say if someone who planned to buy the game decided not to because of this it makes an impact on that person.

    That person gets asked by a friend why they didn’t pre-order. they tell them. that friend who didn’t know now knows. it spreads.

    you are not the judge of what is and isn’t impactful. or what does and doesn’t matter.

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      monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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      #41

      Or better yet: form the union out of spite. All of them.

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      • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

        Well, it has to start somewhere.

        From Dragon Age: Veilguard and Suicide Squad to Condord and Redfall. They all underperformed for the same reason. People talked.

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        prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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        #42

        Good luck with that with GT fucking A 6…

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        • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

          Why do you care so much about someone deciding not to buy a game as a result of this? I would say if someone who planned to buy the game decided not to because of this it makes an impact on that person.

          That person gets asked by a friend why they didn’t pre-order. they tell them. that friend who didn’t know now knows. it spreads.

          you are not the judge of what is and isn’t impactful. or what does and doesn’t matter.

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          prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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          #43

          How does that signal reach Take2? How will Take2 know that these sales that will not have happened were due to their union busting?

          When will those people “cave in” and simply buy the game whenit’s been released for 4 years on discount? These things don’t work without a PR campaign. I don’t make the rules. I’m sim’ly the messengere

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          • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

            Good luck with that with GT fucking A 6…

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            Feydaikin
            wrote on last edited by
            #44

            I have no interest in the GTA franchise, personally. I’m more interested in what goes on behind the scenes. The industry is in a bit of a turmoil at the moment and that definitely has my attention.

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            • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

              I have no interest in the GTA franchise, personally. I’m more interested in what goes on behind the scenes. The industry is in a bit of a turmoil at the moment and that definitely has my attention.

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              prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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              #45

              Your lack of interest hasn’t stopped the franchise being like the second biggest video game franchise. I’m afraid that this won’t notably hurt their sales. Especially since you probably weren’t gonna buy it anyway.

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              • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                Your lack of interest hasn’t stopped the franchise being like the second biggest video game franchise. I’m afraid that this won’t notably hurt their sales. Especially since you probably weren’t gonna buy it anyway.

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                Feydaikin
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                #46

                Nope, but I’d encourage anyone who would have bought it, but are now on the fence due their own moral reasons, to stick with their gut. A piece of entertainment isn’t more important than personal principles, regardless of it’s popularity and how many others may buy it anyway.

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                • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

                  Nope, but I’d encourage anyone who would have bought it, but are now on the fence due their own moral reasons, to stick with their gut. A piece of entertainment isn’t more important than personal principles, regardless of it’s popularity and how many others may buy it anyway.

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                  prunebutt@slrpnk.net
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #47

                  Then you’ll have reached nothing but given a few people a feeling of moral superiorty and saved them a few bucks.

                  But it is not effective in the sense that these workers will be able to work in this sector again or will get their job back. A few folks complaining and pledging not to buy the game won’t scare Take2 to rehire the workers or stop unionbusting.

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                  • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                    Then you’ll have reached nothing but given a few people a feeling of moral superiorty and saved them a few bucks.

                    But it is not effective in the sense that these workers will be able to work in this sector again or will get their job back. A few folks complaining and pledging not to buy the game won’t scare Take2 to rehire the workers or stop unionbusting.

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                    Feydaikin
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                    #48

                    I’m not the one trying to achieve something like that. That’s all your war.

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                    • Cevilia (she/they/…)C Cevilia (she/they/…)

                      It’s nowhere near that simple. Not even close. Even forming a limited company or LLP is more than “an Excel sheet” and that’s before you even start the due diligence process. Unless you wanna go the sole trader route, in which case good luck with the whole “unlimited personal liability” thing.

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                      反いじめ戦隊
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                      #49

                      I forgot folks want plastics sent to shops and homes. You’re right. We need 20% more folks per unionists to even print game covers.
                      Let’s get on that!

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                      • FeydaikinF Feydaikin

                        I’m not the one trying to achieve something like that. That’s all your war.

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                        prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                        #50

                        Then what are you trying to achieve, exactly?

                        That’s all your war.

                        I doubt it, but ok.

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                        • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                          Me watching the entire /c/Nintendo from afar

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                          truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                          Sounds like you need a Tricorn hat, matey, and to sail the seven seas.

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                          • T truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                            Sounds like you need a Tricorn hat, matey, and to sail the seven seas.

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                            wrote on last edited by antibullyranger@ani.social
                            #52

                            You should review profiles of folks in the threadiverse more often. You’d be surprise what hobby I do every Friday for readers internationally.

                            It’s just I am more anarchist than your average monopoly money debtor that I needed to collaborate with Prunebutt 🧵 to get real praxis started.

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                            • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                              How does that signal reach Take2? How will Take2 know that these sales that will not have happened were due to their union busting?

                              When will those people “cave in” and simply buy the game whenit’s been released for 4 years on discount? These things don’t work without a PR campaign. I don’t make the rules. I’m sim’ly the messengere

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                              nima@leminal.space
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                              #53

                              you seem to be a messenger for your own opinions and nothing else.

                              and your methods don’t make you righteous or just. all it shows is that you’re a very loud soapboxer with an idealist take on the situation.

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                              • P prunebutt@slrpnk.net

                                Well, good for you. But don’t act as if you helped.

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                                nima@leminal.space
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                                #54

                                thank goodness you were here to salvage the situation. you really are falling on your sword out here to help those affected by this, eh?

                                🫡

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                                • 反いじめ戦隊A 反いじめ戦隊

                                  You should review profiles of folks in the threadiverse more often. You’d be surprise what hobby I do every Friday for readers internationally.

                                  It’s just I am more anarchist than your average monopoly money debtor that I needed to collaborate with Prunebutt 🧵 to get real praxis started.

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                                  truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                  Ah, voyager sucks at profile viewing, unfortunately. I probably should find a different client.

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                                  • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                    thank goodness you were here to salvage the situation. you really are falling on your sword out here to help those affected by this, eh?

                                    🫡

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                                    prunebutt@slrpnk.net
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                                    #56

                                    Happy to help.

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                                    • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                      you seem to be a messenger for your own opinions and nothing else.

                                      and your methods don’t make you righteous or just. all it shows is that you’re a very loud soapboxer with an idealist take on the situation.

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                                      prunebutt@slrpnk.net
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #57

                                      Your dismissal is duly noted. As well as the fact that you didn’t address my objections and we’re having different interpretations of what “idealist” means.

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                                      • ObiniceO Obinice

                                        Strange that as this is a UK news story which is particularly big for also being linked to the most gigantic game franchise in the world, I’ve not seen it mentioned in the news here at all.

                                        I’ve only seen it pop up a few times here and there online, even.

                                        Is it just that nobody cares, or is Rockstar buying off all the news/media companies? O.o

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                                        arudesalad
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                                        #58

                                        The BBC wrote an article about it but never showed it to anyone. I had to search for it and even then it was a pain to find.

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                                        • nima@leminal.spaceN nima@leminal.space

                                          thank goodness you were here to salvage the situation. you really are falling on your sword out here to help those affected by this, eh?

                                          🫡

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                                          反いじめ戦隊
                                          wrote on last edited by antibullyranger@ani.social
                                          #59

                                          You can volunteer to their cause if you so gladly actually want to contribute.

                                          We are only asking everyone that wanted to see actual solidarity to actually get involved in intersecting.

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