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  • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works

    Did kings hoard all the wealth? I thought kings had a monopoly on violence, not necessarily wealth

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    barneypiccolo@lemmy.today
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    #17

    Armies are expensive, and war is REALLY expensive.

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    • C captainlezbian@lemmy.world

      Also if you possess a monopoly on violence wealth is not difficult to obtain

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      edgemaster72@lemmy.world
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      #18

      And once you have that wealth you NEED a monopoly on violence to maintain it, which requires more wealth, and so on.

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      • B but_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world

        It’s almost as if the stories of dragons were an allegory for the king or the one sin charge

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        faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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        #19

        I too have played the Shadowrun Returns series

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        • G grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works

          Did kings hoard all the wealth? I thought kings had a monopoly on violence, not necessarily wealth

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          faythofdragons@slrpnk.net
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          #20

          IIRC everything you had was considered to be used by permission of the king. Like, he ostensibly owned everything and was just letting you use it.

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            mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social
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            #21

            I must have missed the part where the dragon funded infrastructure, hired knights to keep his populace safe, propped up the food stores and economy in times of famine, and negotiated with neighboring kingdoms when needed. Oh and funding research. Forgot how often dragons did that.

            And for those asking about benevolent kings:

            Aragorn

            T’Challa/Black Panther

            Mufasa

            King Arthur

            King Leonidas

            King Tirian

            Some real life good kings(and a queen)

            Emperor Augustus(look up the slave who broke a crystal glass)

            Empress Wu Zerian

            Cyrus the Great

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            • F faythofdragons@slrpnk.net

              IIRC everything you had was considered to be used by permission of the king. Like, he ostensibly owned everything and was just letting you use it.

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              m4xie@lemmy.ca
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              #22

              There have been various degrees of absolutely and constitutional monarchies throughout history. One famous example is the limits imposed by the Magna Carta, which only benefited nobles.

              There has often been a distinction between royal property and the personal property of the royal family or members of the royal family.

              For instance, many of the palaces of the British royal family are national property and Parliament has a say in their use and must provide a budget for their upkeep. The total family privately owns a significant percentage of the rented agricultural land in England, and vast amounts of residential rentals in London.

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              • M mirshe@lemmy.world

                In actuality, most corpos are run by people. Lofwyr, whose corporate umbrella includes 4758 companies, is an outlier and should not have been counted. /s

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                dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                #23

                But Lofwyr literally controls 95% of the GDP with those companies, who are run by his extended family!

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                • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social

                  I must have missed the part where the dragon funded infrastructure, hired knights to keep his populace safe, propped up the food stores and economy in times of famine, and negotiated with neighboring kingdoms when needed. Oh and funding research. Forgot how often dragons did that.

                  And for those asking about benevolent kings:

                  Aragorn

                  T’Challa/Black Panther

                  Mufasa

                  King Arthur

                  King Leonidas

                  King Tirian

                  Some real life good kings(and a queen)

                  Emperor Augustus(look up the slave who broke a crystal glass)

                  Empress Wu Zerian

                  Cyrus the Great

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                  solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  #24

                  A yes, the benevolent ruler, almost as common as the benevolent slave owner.

                  Funded infrastructure

                  Or, returned a small amount of the value extracted in order to facilitate further extraction

                  Hired knights to

                  Keep his interests safe

                  (Hoarded resources and returned a pittance to prop up) food stores and the economy in times of famine

                  Negotiated with neighboring kingdoms

                  To further state interests

                  Funded research

                  At public expense for private gain

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                  • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social

                    I must have missed the part where the dragon funded infrastructure, hired knights to keep his populace safe, propped up the food stores and economy in times of famine, and negotiated with neighboring kingdoms when needed. Oh and funding research. Forgot how often dragons did that.

                    And for those asking about benevolent kings:

                    Aragorn

                    T’Challa/Black Panther

                    Mufasa

                    King Arthur

                    King Leonidas

                    King Tirian

                    Some real life good kings(and a queen)

                    Emperor Augustus(look up the slave who broke a crystal glass)

                    Empress Wu Zerian

                    Cyrus the Great

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                    dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #25

                    Show me this king that personally leads the road building crew

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                    • S stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                      sam_bass@lemmy.world
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                      #26

                      Here there be

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                      • D dragontypewyvern@midwest.social

                        Show me this king that personally leads the road building crew

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                        bigbananadealer@lemmy.world
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                        #27

                        show me a dragon that doesnt burn down villages

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                        • W weirdbeardgame

                          https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-d29z8G6U28 And here this exact post is, animated with the original voice acting!

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                          finitebanjo
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                          #28

                          Well

                          No

                          the voice acting comes from a different channel @ZacSpeaksGiant‬ but the animator and him have a mutually beneficial relationship.

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                          • mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social

                            I must have missed the part where the dragon funded infrastructure, hired knights to keep his populace safe, propped up the food stores and economy in times of famine, and negotiated with neighboring kingdoms when needed. Oh and funding research. Forgot how often dragons did that.

                            And for those asking about benevolent kings:

                            Aragorn

                            T’Challa/Black Panther

                            Mufasa

                            King Arthur

                            King Leonidas

                            King Tirian

                            Some real life good kings(and a queen)

                            Emperor Augustus(look up the slave who broke a crystal glass)

                            Empress Wu Zerian

                            Cyrus the Great

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                            zalgotext@sh.itjust.works
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                            #29

                            Never would have thought to find a shill for royalty in the year 2025

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                            • B bigbananadealer@lemmy.world

                              show me a dragon that doesnt burn down villages

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                              leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                              #30

                              Show us a fucking dragon

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                              • B bigbananadealer@lemmy.world

                                show me a dragon that doesnt burn down villages

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                                dragontypewyvern@midwest.social
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                                #31

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                                • leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zoneL leonixster@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                  Show us a fucking dragon

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                                  bigbananadealer@lemmy.world
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                                  #32

                                  can it be fucking a car?

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                                  • F finitebanjo

                                    Well

                                    No

                                    the voice acting comes from a different channel @ZacSpeaksGiant‬ but the animator and him have a mutually beneficial relationship.

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                                    weirdbeardgame
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                                    #33

                                    True, and he does link the source.

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                                    • Z zalgotext@sh.itjust.works

                                      Never would have thought to find a shill for royalty in the year 2025

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                                      mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social
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                                      #34

                                      In regards to King v. Dragon.

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                                      • D dragontypewyvern@midwest.social

                                        Show me this king that personally leads the road building crew

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                                        mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social
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                                        #35

                                        Well, I said funded so…

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                                        • S solarvector@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                          A yes, the benevolent ruler, almost as common as the benevolent slave owner.

                                          Funded infrastructure

                                          Or, returned a small amount of the value extracted in order to facilitate further extraction

                                          Hired knights to

                                          Keep his interests safe

                                          (Hoarded resources and returned a pittance to prop up) food stores and the economy in times of famine

                                          Negotiated with neighboring kingdoms

                                          To further state interests

                                          Funded research

                                          At public expense for private gain

                                          mydarkesttimeline01@ani.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mydarkesttimeline01@ani.social
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #36

                                          Still more common than the benevolent dragon though.

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