Delta Green: UNIT except instead of the Doctor it's one of the Old Ones they found in the cave in Antarctica.

"He's a zany alien scientist but he's on our side!"

"Why is he making sentient poo and using it like an AI chat bot?"

"I don't know... Why is he a raving misogynist in a tartan cloak and puffy pirate shirt? I said he was zany"

@Taskerland If you don't buy into the Rough Men fallacy the published material can get very hard to stomach. You should talk to @shimminbeg about this.

@Taskerland @shimminbeg The thing that gets attributed to Orwell though he didn't say it. "People sleep peacefully in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf" i.e. we the cops can't be constrained by your rules, man, you can't understand, you weren't there.

@Taskerland It’s definitely not a copaganda kind of game.

@Taskerland I'd rather play your UNIT game. I've sometimes considered running a "season 7½" UNIT game in which the Doctor has gone away and they've got the Brig, Liz Shaw, Yates and Benton plus a bunch of squaddies as needed.

@RogerBW UNIT: Heroically feeding national service conscripts to monsters.

@Taskerland I’ve heard it described as “the x-files except someone dies or goes insane every week”.

@Taskerland Doctor Who is pretty much one step from CoC really.

That box thing with weird angles that can be anywhere in time?

@Taskerland I think you could do a very nice UNIT game without "defaulting" to Delta Green.

And I'd imagine there's a lot people around with good material game to help.

But if you stack Unit, with The Nightmare Man, Enigma Files, The Omega Factor and say Doomwatch you'd have a hugely playable background that wasn't stuck in any particularly rut. Delta Green always just seems like "oh more CoC" to me

@Taskerland Brian Lumley and "De Marigny's Clock"

I actually honestly think there is more fun in a game like Delta Green/Unit/etc if you step away from the mythos.

I've done faux Dr Who monsters very successfully as one offs. Plastic things like the Autons/Tomorrow People taking over chemical plans, and I did a pastiche on the Silurians as "Devonians" but ran it in CoC gaslight as the origin of the "little people" in a country seat with local quarrying waking them up. COC can be a bit flat

@Taskerland I think your love of Nigel Kneale plays well into an overarching rationale for a military investigation team too. The Road and Stone Tape, both create fixed reasons for the military to base at places to secure them. Taskerlands is a great base, and it has some connection to time-travel. Stone Tape as "session zero"

@Taskerland The Road has that "weakening of time" aspect staring into a future apocalypse that is just plot bait.

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@Taskerland @RogerBW it's the aspect of DG that I find tiresome enough to complain to Roger about regularly. Don't give Agents the necessary info for their jobs, but do whatever crimes are necessary to destroy the unnatural, kill the witnesses, and of course, the organization will murder any Agents who seem compromised or inconvenient or bad at their jobs.

@Taskerland @RogerBW for my own modern agency-type scenarios I deliberately avoid because, firstly, I don't want to play those kinds of people, and secondly it doesn't seem at all a good way to run an agency. If you want to quell supernatural threats, give the Agents as much info as you can and value them.

@Taskerland @RogerBW I'm slightly surprised that I've only come across one game built around someone trying to destroy DG entirely, and sadly that antagonist was textually 100% in the wrong.

@Taskerland @RogerBW I have also been vaguely tempted to devise a DG setup but it's the bits of government that aren't so ACAB: a secret benevolent conspiracy of waste disposal operatives, health visitors, bus drivers, planning inspectors etc.