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  • P Phantaminum

    That sounds like a really fun combat for a level 11 or less party!

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    shiggles@sh.itjust.works
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    … is the joke Irressitable dance? Is it somehow unthinkable to you that a powerful barbarian might have found some way around charm spells/other single targetsave or sucks? What if they just happen to be a Berserker?

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      jiggle_physics@sh.itjust.works
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      “And what you have are hit points, and the hope that before your hit points are empty, our spells slots have run out”

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        sad_detective_man@leminal.space
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        #13

        *glances at a page full of debufs and a Rube Goldberg machine ending in the game equivalent of a a pokeball or Geas spell*

        right, well I guess I don’t want you to not be standing

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        • S shiggles@sh.itjust.works

          … is the joke Irressitable dance? Is it somehow unthinkable to you that a powerful barbarian might have found some way around charm spells/other single targetsave or sucks? What if they just happen to be a Berserker?

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          Phantaminum
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          You can certanly balance the combat, don’t get me worng, but I think that a party from level 11 onwards can outmanouver a Berserker in ways he es not able to keep up. Most of the casters should fly by that point and its been a while but I think by level 11 casters already have access to some way to have the action economy on their side, like Animate object or summon animals (is that the druid’s one?). In the minwhile the other party members can spam save or suck spells as you said! O guess the real breakpoint is level 13 when they have access to forcecage.

          I really wish martial characters had some superhuman “spells” like your clasic super hero shockwave or those big jumps… I know monks can jump really far, but I wish most characters could!

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          • P Phantaminum

            You can certanly balance the combat, don’t get me worng, but I think that a party from level 11 onwards can outmanouver a Berserker in ways he es not able to keep up. Most of the casters should fly by that point and its been a while but I think by level 11 casters already have access to some way to have the action economy on their side, like Animate object or summon animals (is that the druid’s one?). In the minwhile the other party members can spam save or suck spells as you said! O guess the real breakpoint is level 13 when they have access to forcecage.

            I really wish martial characters had some superhuman “spells” like your clasic super hero shockwave or those big jumps… I know monks can jump really far, but I wish most characters could!

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            ourkaos@lemmy.today
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            A D&D Barbarian with a Diablo 2 style ridiculous-ranged Leap Attack would be absolutely terrifying.

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              Sidhean
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              What do spell slots let you do, funny masked man?

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              • M makeshiftreaper@lemmy.world

                At levels above 17 the Barbarian can rage for a full hour straight, which is 600 rounds. That rage is out lasting the spell slots

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                • A arbitraryvalue@sh.itjust.works

                  Well technically the barbarian can only rage for a limited time without having to rest too (although he’s a lot more dangerous without rage than a caster without spells is). Would a rogue have no limited resource other than hitpoints?

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                  resting_parrot@sh.itjust.works
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                  Rogue assassin archer can run away while shooting you. Being able to dash as a bonus action means they’ll outrun you most of the time. Add in the sharpshooter feat, and they can ignore 1/2 and 3/4 cover. Any time they can get sneak attack means they can just do stupid amounts of damage.

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                  • J jiggle_physics@sh.itjust.works

                    “And what you have are hit points, and the hope that before your hit points are empty, our spells slots have run out”

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                    Stamets
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                    Grins in zealot

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                    • O ourkaos@lemmy.today

                      A D&D Barbarian with a Diablo 2 style ridiculous-ranged Leap Attack would be absolutely terrifying.

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                      Phantaminum
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                      As they should, would love to narrate that scene!

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                      • J jiggle_physics@sh.itjust.works

                        “And what you have are hit points, and the hope that before your hit points are empty, our spells slots have run out”

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                        underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                        Imagine playing a wizard that cares about hit points.

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                        • S shiggles@sh.itjust.works

                          … is the joke Irressitable dance? Is it somehow unthinkable to you that a powerful barbarian might have found some way around charm spells/other single targetsave or sucks? What if they just happen to be a Berserker?

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                          underpantsweevil@lemmy.world
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                          Is it somehow unthinkable to you that a powerful barbarian might have found some way around charm spells/other single targetsave or sucks?

                          Idk, did he ever learn to read?

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                          • K GingaNinga

                            With the right eldrich blast build who needs spell slots.

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                            Coffeelock was ridiculous shenanigans.

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                              Hey. One hour combat? Have you played D&D? 🤣

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                              • P Phantaminum

                                As they should, would love to narrate that scene!

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                                Grog has entered the chat

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                                • A arbitraryvalue@sh.itjust.works

                                  Well technically the barbarian can only rage for a limited time without having to rest too (although he’s a lot more dangerous without rage than a caster without spells is). Would a rogue have no limited resource other than hitpoints?

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                                  fordbeeblebrox@lemmy.world
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                                  Depends on the subclass I guess, my arcane trickster can stab kidneys forever but can’t misty step out of danger all day, cunning action dash can get you out of most spots though.

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                                  • D drathro@sh.itjust.works

                                    Booming blade can get nasty too, but requires a lot more work for spacing/movement.

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                                    itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                    Booming Blade Swashbuckler, my beloved

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                                      siethron@lemmy.world
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                                      Bear totem barbarian bbegs are the bane of every party. Fireball? So that’s 26 damage… Halved.

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                                      • S siethron@lemmy.world

                                        Bear totem barbarian bbegs are the bane of every party. Fireball? So that’s 26 damage… Halved.

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                                        kryptoniancodemonkey@lemmy.world
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                                        “And halved again…” reveals Teifling horns

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                                        • Øπ3ŕO Øπ3ŕ

                                          Hey. One hour combat? Have you played D&D? 🤣

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                                          quetzalcutlass@lemmy.world
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                                          With a full party of casters? One hour IC, a couple years OOC.

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