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    rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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    Also, Shire just means Farm.

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    • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

      Also, Shire just means Farm.

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      rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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      And all of the evil characters/places have Arabic or Germanic sounding names.

      I love his work, but he was racist. Same thing with Lovecraft, though Lovecraft was more xenophobic because he rarely left the house, and foreigners were scary.

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      • G greenknight23@lemmy.world

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        might not have made you laugh, but you’ve got to admit, you’re going to be bent out of shape about my joke for at least a couple days.

        go outside, touch grass. have a quiet moment and reflect on why a meme chapped your ass so thoroughly.

        I actually feel kind of sorry for you that you’re so bent out of shape on something so fucking insignificant.

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        orgrinrt@lemmy.world
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        You are an ass. Do better.

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          You are an ass. Do better.

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          greenknight23@lemmy.world
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          What do you get recognised for on Lemmy? - Lemmy.World

          We’re a small tight knit community. We see the same names everywhere. I’m sure many of you have been recognised by strangers before. What is your claim to Lemmy fame. (Question inspired by, https://lemmy.world/comment/19964547 [https://lemmy.world/comment/19964547])

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          • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

            And all of the evil characters/places have Arabic or Germanic sounding names.

            I love his work, but he was racist. Same thing with Lovecraft, though Lovecraft was more xenophobic because he rarely left the house, and foreigners were scary.

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            mastertigurius@lemmy.world
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            Which evil characters? Azog, Radbug, Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman. Not even remotely Germanic or Arab-sounding. Linguists have drawn comparison between Black Speech and ancient Mesopotamian languages, specifically Hurro-Urartian languages, which originated in what is now the Armenian Highlands. Again, not remotely Arabic, which is Semitic language. The only comparisons to Germanic languages I can think of in the Tolkien universe are dwarves and men.

            If you’re gonna accuse a dead person of something awful, have your facts straight.

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            • M mastertigurius@lemmy.world

              Which evil characters? Azog, Radbug, Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman. Not even remotely Germanic or Arab-sounding. Linguists have drawn comparison between Black Speech and ancient Mesopotamian languages, specifically Hurro-Urartian languages, which originated in what is now the Armenian Highlands. Again, not remotely Arabic, which is Semitic language. The only comparisons to Germanic languages I can think of in the Tolkien universe are dwarves and men.

              If you’re gonna accuse a dead person of something awful, have your facts straight.

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              rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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              Harad/Haradrim/ Swirters were basically Arabic/African dark skinned swarthy people that served as heroless bad guys, unless I missed out on something. https://share.google/GGo7jZXCys45ZC8W7

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                Harad/Haradrim/ Swirters were basically Arabic/African dark skinned swarthy people that served as heroless bad guys, unless I missed out on something. https://share.google/GGo7jZXCys45ZC8W7

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                rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                They were the scary evil guys that brought Oliphants into the battle.

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                • M mastertigurius@lemmy.world

                  Which evil characters? Azog, Radbug, Morgoth, Sauron, Saruman. Not even remotely Germanic or Arab-sounding. Linguists have drawn comparison between Black Speech and ancient Mesopotamian languages, specifically Hurro-Urartian languages, which originated in what is now the Armenian Highlands. Again, not remotely Arabic, which is Semitic language. The only comparisons to Germanic languages I can think of in the Tolkien universe are dwarves and men.

                  If you’re gonna accuse a dead person of something awful, have your facts straight.

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                  rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                  I had a professor that compared Black Speech to proto Germanic, so if that is completely incorrect I apologize for repeating it.

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                  • B balsoft@lemmy.ml

                    Yep. Some common names:

                    Steve ← Steven ← Stephanus ← στέφανος = crown (or wealth)

                    Linda ← -linde = tender, soft

                    James ← Iacomus ← Iacobus ← Ἰάκωβος ← Ἰακώβ ← יַעֲקֹב = heel, footprint / follow, watch, observe

                    Karen ← Catherine ← Αἰκατερίνη ← Ἑκάτη = one who works from far away (referring to a goddess)

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                    rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                    Karen- one who complains to management

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                      Didn’t he also say that his actual Entish name would take too long to pronounce for regular mortals to bother with?

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                      rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                      Right, wouldn’t an Entish Introduction (great band name) take a month of common time?

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                        Hello, my name is Personface

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                        rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                        Charles Gunhaver, reporting for duty. Rock, Rock on!

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                        • A agent641@lemmy.world

                          Overt bad guy: Sauron

                          Secret bad guy: Saurumon

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                          hupf@feddit.org
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                          I don’t follow Digimon lore

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                            bomberesque@lemmy.world
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                            Mount DOOM has entered the chat

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                            • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

                              Harad/Haradrim/ Swirters were basically Arabic/African dark skinned swarthy people that served as heroless bad guys, unless I missed out on something. https://share.google/GGo7jZXCys45ZC8W7

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                              mastertigurius@lemmy.world
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                              The Haradrim swore allegiance to Sauron after long years of oppression by the Númenóreans and conflict with Gondor, during which Sauron worked to seduce them to his side. However, not all of them joined Sauron. Many sided with the blue wizards. You could draw parallels to modern times; not all Russians support Putin, and not all Iranians support Khomeini.

                              It’s worth mentioning Dunlendings also went the same way after excessive Númenórean exploitation of their natural resources and resulting wars. They fought for Saruman (Sauron by proxy) alongside Uruk-hai in Helm’s Deep.

                              Of course the Haradrim were dark-skinned - they were from the southern hemisphere of Arda, the huge landmass south of Gondor and Mordor. Most of it is on or below the equator.

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                              • R rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works

                                I had a professor that compared Black Speech to proto Germanic, so if that is completely incorrect I apologize for repeating it.

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                                melvin_ferd@lemmy.world
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                                nah it’s cool. We’re all trying to chase that leftist capital.

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                                • M mastertigurius@lemmy.world

                                  The Haradrim swore allegiance to Sauron after long years of oppression by the Númenóreans and conflict with Gondor, during which Sauron worked to seduce them to his side. However, not all of them joined Sauron. Many sided with the blue wizards. You could draw parallels to modern times; not all Russians support Putin, and not all Iranians support Khomeini.

                                  It’s worth mentioning Dunlendings also went the same way after excessive Númenórean exploitation of their natural resources and resulting wars. They fought for Saruman (Sauron by proxy) alongside Uruk-hai in Helm’s Deep.

                                  Of course the Haradrim were dark-skinned - they were from the southern hemisphere of Arda, the huge landmass south of Gondor and Mordor. Most of it is on or below the equator.

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                                  rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works
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                                  I knew someone that actually read the Silmarillion would be able to correct me. Thank you for the correction.

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                                    blackbelt352@ttrpg.network
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                                    Personal attacks aren’t jokes. They’re all punch, no line.

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                                    • B buddahriffic@lemmy.world

                                      It’s kinda funny with anime and manga. They use Japanese names for a bunch of stuff like special martial arts techniques or special moves. Not knowing Japanese, the names sound cool and mysterious.

                                      Learning the actual translations, Treebeard is pretty par for the course.

                                      Like from Naruto, Sasuke uses the Copy Wheel Eye (sharingan), Hinyata uses the White Eye (byakugon), and Naruto’s big move is Spiral Sphere (rasengan). Copy Wheel Eye’s upgraded version is called Kalidoscope Copy Wheel Eye.

                                      They aren’t horrible names, but they feel less cool.

                                      Though it would be funny if Saitama has special moves that are just other languages saying “normal punch” or “serious punch”. “Hip bump with moderate vigor” or something.

                                      Edit: fixed spelling of byakugon

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                                      nikls94@lemmy.world
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                                      In MMORPGs the Archer class usually has a skill called “Aimed Shot”.

                                      (Joke incoming: That’s a stronger version of the skill “Unaimed Shot” where you just miss)

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                                      • L leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                                        Sure… but Tolkien could tell you Treebeard’s name in hall a dozen languages he’d made up for his setting (or for fun, before the setting was a thing), including full etymologies.

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                                        flyingcircus@lemmy.world
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                                        Including Treebeard’s actual name in his own language. Treebeard is almost a joke name meant to show how primitive the humans are who called him that.

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                                          ivanovsky@lemmy.sdf.org
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                                          Maybe that’s why Tolkien wrote a ton of books while most of us get stuck in the character creation screen of Baldur’s Gate 3 choosing a name for 7 hours.

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