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Valve Responds To Steam Machine's HDMI 2.1 Display Support Controversy [HW support is there, but "The HDMI forum" doesn’t allow with OpenSource drivers]

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    Valve Responds To Steam Machine's HDMI 2.1 Display Support Controversy

    Valve has set the record straight over the implementation of HDMI in the upcoming Steam Machine.

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      givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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      There’s a huge rabbit hole with HDMI certification…

      Like, display port is better in everyway, but people make a shit ton of money off putting “HDMI certified” on products, so that’s still the default.

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        goun@lemmy.ml
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        Fuck hdmi

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          thingsiplay@beehaw.org
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          DisplayPort for the win

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            opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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            “We need to develop a one universal standard that covers everyone’s use cases.”

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            • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

              “We need to develop a one universal standard that covers everyone’s use cases.”

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              supernovastar@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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              At the time, there were too many standards. But looking back from today, we see that standardization does eventually occur, it just takes time.

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                Fuck hdmi

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                stoy@lemmy.zip
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                HDMI requires a license cost, DisplayPort is free.

                What advantage does HDMI hold over DisplayPort?

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                • S stoy@lemmy.zip

                  HDMI requires a license cost, DisplayPort is free.

                  What advantage does HDMI hold over DisplayPort?

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                  NickeeCoco
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                  No real technical advantage; it’s just owned by the same shitbags that dominate the TV market, so it’s the only way to connect to a lot of consumer living-room displays

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                    No real technical advantage; it’s just owned by the same shitbags that dominate the TV market, so it’s the only way to connect to a lot of consumer living-room displays

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                    sat@lemmynsfw.com
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                    This is the problem. I would switch to DP instantly but my TV only has HDMI ports.

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                    • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                      “We need to develop a one universal standard that covers everyone’s use cases.”

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                      D1re_W0lf
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                        This is the problem. I would switch to DP instantly but my TV only has HDMI ports.

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                        There are DisplayPort to HDMI converters available

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                          It’s pretty weird that this organization that exists only to extract rents from people who want to use hdmi remains unwilling to do so even for a customer as large as Valve. I wonder who has given them the motivation for it, and how much it cost them.

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                          • S stoy@lemmy.zip

                            HDMI requires a license cost, DisplayPort is free.

                            What advantage does HDMI hold over DisplayPort?

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                            sendmephotos@lemmy.world
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                            Omg is this seriously it??

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                            • opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.deO opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de

                              “We need to develop a one universal standard that covers everyone’s use cases.”

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                              bradleyuffner@lemmy.world
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                              The use case of “make a shit ton of money licensing a proprietary standard” is kind of mutually exclusive with other use cases. It would be hard to cover.

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                                opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                At least one person got the joke. 😁

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                                  There are DisplayPort to HDMI converters available

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                                  woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                                  Pretty sure DRMed content refuses to play on those.

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                                    There are DisplayPort to HDMI converters available

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                                    plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works
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                                    Latency, desync, probably can’t do full 4k/120… just because something exists doesn’t mean it’s a viable solution.

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                                    • N NickeeCoco

                                      No real technical advantage; it’s just owned by the same shitbags that dominate the TV market, so it’s the only way to connect to a lot of consumer living-room displays

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                                      fascicle@leminal.space
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                                      Display port to HDMI cables are pretty good

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                                        opticalmoose@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                        Their motivation is staying away from open platforms, and protecting their members’ IP rights. Gotta thwart those pirates.

                                        AMD is nearly 100x the size of Valve, and they couldn’t get HDMI 2.1 approval on Linux. Nvidia somewhat has it with their proprietary drivers, but not nouveau.

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                                          evil_shrubbery@lemmy.zip
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                                          It’s wild how much we flock around such shitty standards all the time, generation after generation.

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