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Valve Responds To Steam Machine's HDMI 2.1 Display Support Controversy [HW support is there, but "The HDMI forum" doesn’t allow with OpenSource drivers]

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  • X xyguy@startrek.website

    I think thats actually what Intel did on their A series graphics cards. Only had display port out signals but had a display port to HDMI adapter built into the board.

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    spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca
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    Yes, but that adds more cost. I don’t have any hard data on this, but it feels like their current solution works fine, since anyone using more data than 2160p60, who also won’t accept chroma subsampling, probably is already using DP. Maybe this is a direction to pressure the HDMI forum, since unlike AMD, valve’s drivers are actually open source on the majority of their users’ machines. And if things change in the future, external adapters or proprietary adapters are both solutions.

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    • S sem

      Cec over USBC?

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      spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca
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      I’ve never actually used CEC, but everything I’ve seen says it’s just like a USB HID, correct? According to wikipedia, there already exist USB to CEC adapters.

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      • R ramble81@lemmy.zip

        I don’t see “relevance for HDMI” ending anytime soon. Tell me how easy it is to find a TV with DP inputs. Nearly 99% of consumer gear uses HDMI.

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        spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca
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        It’s easy to find a TV with USB-C input, though not universal. That still uses the DP protocol, and cables with different connectors on opposite ends are both cheaper and more common than those with HDMI as a result. Also, this is only even an issue if HDMI 2.0 isn’t fast enough for you, so old devices aren’t a concern.

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        • S stoy@lemmy.zip

          HDMI requires a license cost, DisplayPort is free.

          What advantage does HDMI hold over DisplayPort?

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          sir_simon_spamalot@lemmy.world
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          #119

          It makes them money.

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          • S spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca

            I’ve never actually used CEC, but everything I’ve seen says it’s just like a USB HID, correct? According to wikipedia, there already exist USB to CEC adapters.

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            sem
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            I don’t know what HID is, but CEC lets you control Kodi with the TV remote.

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            • S sem

              I don’t know what HID is, but CEC lets you control Kodi with the TV remote.

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              spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca
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              #121

              HID means a human interface device, so most commonly a keyboard, but remote controls can and do use the same protocol just fine.

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              • pory@lemmy.worldP pory@lemmy.world

                How many embedded DRM-controlled news article videos are you watching on your living room tv though? PC monitors usually have native display port nowadays, no converters or HDMI necessary.

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                woelkchen@lemmy.world
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                How many embedded DRM-controlled news article videos are you watching on your living room tv though?

                Obviously it’s only a fraction of the overall DRMed content out there but it exists, most notably for live sports that TV stations stream for free on their website but require paid subscriptions when using streaming apps.

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                • S spinning_disk_engineer@lemmy.ca

                  It’s easy to find a TV with USB-C input, though not universal. That still uses the DP protocol, and cables with different connectors on opposite ends are both cheaper and more common than those with HDMI as a result. Also, this is only even an issue if HDMI 2.0 isn’t fast enough for you, so old devices aren’t a concern.

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                  ramble81@lemmy.zip
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                  The only down side is DP Alt mode is optional and must be enabled and supported by the internal controller and system. In order to do that, you might as well just go full DP at that point and somehow I don’t think the manufacturers are gonna spend more money on that. Most likely the USB-C port only supports a mass storage class device.

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                  • thingsiplay@beehaw.orgT thingsiplay@beehaw.org

                    Hmm, that’s a new one for me. Why the dislike for DisplayPort?

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                    snowpenguin@lemmy.ca
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                    #124

                    I had many problems with it in the past. It has been behaving well with me in the last 1-2 years though

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                    • S stoy@lemmy.zip

                      HDMI requires a license cost, DisplayPort is free.

                      What advantage does HDMI hold over DisplayPort?

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                      alessandro@lemmy.ca
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                      #125

                      Conglomerate like Sony pushes it with their business in selling TV and collateral interest in media DRM for their services.

                      Other TV OEM companies follow Sony&co. lead because… uhm… “Oh! They make customers… spend money” broadly shake hands in air

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