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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

    Notes for Americans:

    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

    Dave RahardjaD This user is from outside of this forum
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    @cstross Luckily, you can’t follow its instructions in this case because there is no black wire in the standard UK three-wire bundle.

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

      Notes for Americans:

      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

      Wayne WernerK This user is from outside of this forum
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      Wayne Werner
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      #53

      @cstross FWIW ChatGPT wants to be WebMD 2.0 so there's that 😑

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      • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

        @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

        How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

        Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
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        Fish Id Wardrobe
        wrote last edited by
        #54

        @jbayes @cstross presumably not none, since by the time i was a kid in the 70s, they were teaching it in school…

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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          wrote last edited by
          #55

          @cstross

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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            Roy -- the dull one
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            #56

            @cstross

            Okay, you've convinced me! Now I'm ready to support a million satellite data centers.
            /s

            NO I'M NOT! I'm having another IRONY attack, folks! DO NOT seek AI advice on anything electrical, or flammable, or romantic! DO NOT buy into zany schemes for becoming a 'Kardashev Level II Civilization' by making Low Earth Orbit into The Junkyard In The Sky!

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

              CM HarringtonO This user is from outside of this forum
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              @cstross @drahardja I mean, they don’t even SHOW the purple wire.

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              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                Notes for Americans:

                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
                Jack Yan (甄爵恩)
                wrote last edited by
                #58

                @cstross Wow, did not know number 1. I wonder when this practice stopped in New Zealand. I remember my dad wiring plugs but then that was his trade.

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                  Notes for Americans:

                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                  Tofu GolemT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Tofu Golem
                  wrote last edited by
                  #59

                  @cstross
                  If you want a computer to produce wiring diagrams like this correctly, you need something called an expertise system, which is a very different beast from the various technologies we refer to as AI.

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                    Notes for Americans:

                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                    I am Jack's Found 404F This user is from outside of this forum
                    I am Jack's Found 404F This user is from outside of this forum
                    I am Jack's Found 404
                    wrote last edited by
                    #60

                    @cstross

                    But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                    • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                      @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

                      My camera shoots fascistsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      My camera shoots fascists
                      wrote last edited by
                      #61

                      @nygl @cstross

                      Looks legit.
                      I just cannot believe people put any faith in any of this nonsense 🤦‍♂️

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                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                        Notes for Americans:

                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                        CodeByJeff - Now with AI!C This user is from outside of this forum
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                        CodeByJeff - Now with AI!
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                        #62

                        @cstross Why is this always "Notes for Americans"?

                        Are Americans the only people in the world who aren't British?

                        Do you think British people born after 1992 have a fucking clue why this is funny?

                        Have you ever tried to reconcile your feelings of "America isn't the center of everything" with your obsession to make America the center of everything?

                        "For people outside the UK" would have been a far better (and more inclusive) way to start your post

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                        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                          Notes for Americans:

                          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                          LisPiL This user is from outside of this forum
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                          LisPi
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                          #63
                          @cstross I'd kind of hope the government actually provides a guide for citizen on their websites and/or other convenient information outlets.
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                          • I am Jack's Found 404F I am Jack's Found 404

                            @cstross

                            But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                            My camera shoots fascists
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                            #64

                            @float13 @cstross

                            You're on to something there!

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                            • ParsingphaseP Parsingphase

                              @cstross Ok I think I know who did the wiring in my house now. They literally painted the end of the wire when they used the wrong one.

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                              @parsingphase @cstross ayfkm

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                              • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                                @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

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                                @cstross @auxonic blive implies the existence of bneutral and bground?

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                                • JonO Jon

                                  @cstross I figure at the rate of the Accelerando, we are no more than weeks away from "agentic AI" demanding access to people's financial accounts. Hopefully some of those people will be billionaires drinking their own Kool-Aid.

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                                  @oddhack @cstross

                                  Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                                  favicon

                                  (www.macquarie.com.au)

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                                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                    Notes for Americans:

                                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                    Jigme DatseJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Jigme Datse
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                                    #68

                                    @cstross I'm leaning toward "boom" with these. But I'm not an electrician.

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                                    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                      RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                      Notes for Americans:

                                      1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                      2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                      3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

                                      Madeleine MorrisR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Madeleine Morris
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                                      #69

                                      @cstross Oh my god.

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                                      • sabikS sabik

                                        @moz @cstross
                                        I mean, you'd hope that a plug which shorts live and earth would just trip the house breaker or RCD, but it could also make nearby appliances live or cause a fire, if there's a fault or if the rest of the wiring is to the same standard

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                                        @sabik @moz @cstross Guess it depends how the fuse /breakers are wired in and whether they were also wired using LLMs

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                                        • Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)

                                          @cstross Escher's Suicide Plug

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                                          @rstein @cstross Love Escher
                                          very good

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