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  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

    There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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    @cstross

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    • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

      There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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      @cstross

      Okay, you've convinced me! Now I'm ready to support a million satellite data centers.
      /s

      NO I'M NOT! I'm having another IRONY attack, folks! DO NOT seek AI advice on anything electrical, or flammable, or romantic! DO NOT buy into zany schemes for becoming a 'Kardashev Level II Civilization' by making Low Earth Orbit into The Junkyard In The Sky!

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      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

        There are WORSE AI-generated images of how to wire a UK mains plug. Here's one I saved last year.

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        @cstross @drahardja I mean, they don’t even SHOW the purple wire.

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        • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

          RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

          Notes for Americans:

          1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

          2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

          3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

          Jack Yan (甄爵恩)J This user is from outside of this forum
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          @cstross Wow, did not know number 1. I wonder when this practice stopped in New Zealand. I remember my dad wiring plugs but then that was his trade.

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          • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

            RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

            Notes for Americans:

            1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

            2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

            3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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            @cstross
            If you want a computer to produce wiring diagrams like this correctly, you need something called an expertise system, which is a very different beast from the various technologies we refer to as AI.

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            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

              Notes for Americans:

              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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              @cstross

              But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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              • Nigel WadsworthN Nigel Wadsworth

                @cstross I just asked Gemini to create one for us in Australia. Might try it later… just not sure…

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                @nygl @cstross

                Looks legit.
                I just cannot believe people put any faith in any of this nonsense 🤦‍♂️

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                • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                  RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                  Notes for Americans:

                  1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                  2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                  3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                  @cstross Why is this always "Notes for Americans"?

                  Are Americans the only people in the world who aren't British?

                  Do you think British people born after 1992 have a fucking clue why this is funny?

                  Have you ever tried to reconcile your feelings of "America isn't the center of everything" with your obsession to make America the center of everything?

                  "For people outside the UK" would have been a far better (and more inclusive) way to start your post

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                  • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                    RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                    Notes for Americans:

                    1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                    2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                    3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                    @cstross I'd kind of hope the government actually provides a guide for citizen on their websites and/or other convenient information outlets.
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                    • I am Jack's Found 404F I am Jack's Found 404

                      @cstross

                      But maybe if we let "AI" wire its own plugs...

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                      @float13 @cstross

                      You're on to something there!

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                      • ParsingphaseP Parsingphase

                        @cstross Ok I think I know who did the wiring in my house now. They literally painted the end of the wire when they used the wrong one.

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                        @parsingphase @cstross ayfkm

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                        • Eric GoodwinA Eric Goodwin

                          @cstross Blive implies the existence of a Bdead

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                          @cstross @auxonic blive implies the existence of bneutral and bground?

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                          • JonO Jon

                            @cstross I figure at the rate of the Accelerando, we are no more than weeks away from "agentic AI" demanding access to people's financial accounts. Hopefully some of those people will be billionaires drinking their own Kool-Aid.

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                            @oddhack @cstross

                            Don't worry, your bank will do it for you.

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                            • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                              RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                              Notes for Americans:

                              1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                              2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                              3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                              @cstross I'm leaning toward "boom" with these. But I'm not an electrician.

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                              • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                Notes for Americans:

                                1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                @cstross Oh my god.

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                                • sabikS sabik

                                  @moz @cstross
                                  I mean, you'd hope that a plug which shorts live and earth would just trip the house breaker or RCD, but it could also make nearby appliances live or cause a fire, if there's a fault or if the rest of the wiring is to the same standard

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                                  @sabik @moz @cstross Guess it depends how the fuse /breakers are wired in and whether they were also wired using LLMs

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                                  • Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)R Rolf Steinort (314.8 ppm)

                                    @cstross Escher's Suicide Plug

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                                    @rstein @cstross Love Escher
                                    very good

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                                    • tautologyT tautology

                                      @cstross I do these threads every so often. My most recent one was on my Bluesky where I got four LLMs to draw maps progressively getting more zoomed in (the World, Europe, UK, Yorkshire, York).

                                      Things got worse each time you zoomed in, sometimes with "memories" from the previous image. My favourite was the attached version of Yorkshire.

                                      I'll do another one in a month or two.

                                      Link Preview Image
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                                      @tautology @cstross Great map! Now you just have to ask AI to write the fantasy book to match it.

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                                      • Charlie StrossC Charlie Stross

                                        RE: https://nomenloony.com/@nomenloony/116019280517956996

                                        Notes for Americans:

                                        1. Until 1992 you had to wire your own plugs onto new electrical appliances in the UK (they were sold without pre-molded plugs).

                                        2. Mains voltage is 230VAC, not 110VAC. It'll kill ya.

                                        3. If you follow ChatGPT's advice *YOU WILL DIE*.

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                                        @cstross

                                        But sure, let's become "an AI nation", build "AI gigafactories" in order "not to be left behind" ... /s

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                                        • Joe BayesJ Joe Bayes

                                          @cstross You...you had to wire your own plugs? Seriously?

                                          How many people killed themselves each year because they didn't know how to do it properly and were too impatient to wait for someone who did?

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                                          @cstross @jbayes

                                          I learned to wire plugs from "Blue Peter". That TV program was very involved in the transition from the old round-pin system.

                                          Details of electrical wiring have had many changes since then. My grandfather was a qualified electrician, trained before WW1. Many of the don't-kill-yourself rules that he taught me don't depend on colour-codes or the design of a screw-head.

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