@j2bryson @rhialto @Cacotopos @scy Nuanced disagreement (that might be too historic/nit-picky): ICE is more like the SA (Brownshirts) circa 1933/34. The Gestapo analog in the US is what the FBI will be turned into after about 12-24 months of Trumpism. (The Gestapo was formed by bringing the pre-existing Prussian secret police agency under Göring's (and then Himmler's) control and extending it. An analogy to the FBI under Kash Patel is disturbingly accurate. Expect Miller to take it over next!)