Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent.
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.
It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer That's basic! But the US is not a normal country anymore, it seems
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer A nation of losers. Murders its kids for decades, just to keep the populace armed. Then roles over when a pedophile russian agent illegally captures their government with its goons.
All the while threatening to send its mindless hordes to civilized countries.
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer absolutely correct!! Of course, the same applies to the law enforcement folks
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@theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.
It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.
@crazyeddie ianal but it seems to me:
1 there's a material difference between an accusation and an execution.
2. for it to be slander, the accusation needs to be false.
Anyway, anything goes in the us these days, so you might still be right for all I know.
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer Gentle reminder to do content warnings, please
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@clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.
Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.
@wesdym When I see someone talking about elections or impeachment as a useful tool it tells me that they do not understand the scope of the problem.
That's not cynicism.
Impeachment failed twice because the republican party won't voluntarily give up power. The mid-terms only have power if elections are free, fair and binding.
You can hope for those things, but hope is not a plan.
Today the only viable tool for a peaceful resolution the crisis is economically disruptive direct action.
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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.
@theleftistlawyer please do something about these fucks.
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@theleftistlawyer
Yes. This is what the law says.Of course, the law also says no one is above the law.
That all ended on July 1st 2024 when the Supreme Court of the United States granted one man total immunity from prosecution. A man who could then, in turn, pardon anyone he feels like.
The American Constitution cannot exist side by side with one man who stands above it all...
...Like A King.
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️Shut the fuck up about this already
This can't be your fucking reply to everything -- all of you, please stop about the Supreme Court -- it DID NOT give Trump blanket immunity for anything and everything. Your reading is wrong.
You're telling people to give up. It's not helpful. You're working for Trump.
It's not clever. You're not helping. You're being a child.
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@crazyeddie ianal but it seems to me:
1 there's a material difference between an accusation and an execution.
2. for it to be slander, the accusation needs to be false.
Anyway, anything goes in the us these days, so you might still be right for all I know.
@iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer no, they are right - despite seeing the video the officer is "accused" of murder. There aren't exceptions to this. Not for ICE, not for pedophiles, immigrants or anything.
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@wesdym When I see someone talking about elections or impeachment as a useful tool it tells me that they do not understand the scope of the problem.
That's not cynicism.
Impeachment failed twice because the republican party won't voluntarily give up power. The mid-terms only have power if elections are free, fair and binding.
You can hope for those things, but hope is not a plan.
Today the only viable tool for a peaceful resolution the crisis is economically disruptive direct action.
@simagick You ARE being needlessly cynical, I'm sorry.
30-day mute.
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@theleftistlawyer unfortunately from abroad it seems that the majority of US citizens have long stopped separating reality from fiction and therefore in their minds Judge Dredd probably set a legal precedent circa 1980.
@sheislaurence you're actually suggesting the majority of Americans support this? I mean, you can just insult millions of people despite the evidence I guess. I love when prejudice is okay.
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@sheislaurence you're actually suggesting the majority of Americans support this? I mean, you can just insult millions of people despite the evidence I guess. I love when prejudice is okay.
@sheislaurence I guess it's supposed to be funny or edgy, but also like, the majority of us now dislike YOU because you're saying something really terrible about us without any reason to do it...
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@johnzajac @theleftistlawyer You just took what klan members post on sites like Facebook and Reddit (i.e. Floyd was a rapist, etc) and attributed it to the media. This thread is kind of funny.
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Shut the fuck up about this already
This can't be your fucking reply to everything -- all of you, please stop about the Supreme Court -- it DID NOT give Trump blanket immunity for anything and everything. Your reading is wrong.
You're telling people to give up. It's not helpful. You're working for Trump.
It's not clever. You're not helping. You're being a child.
@joe
"...it DID NOT give Trump blanket immunity..."My reading is that of a Supreme Court Justice. Go argue with her.
"The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world[ ...] Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/01/sonia-sotomayor-dissent-trump-immunity-case -
@joe
"...it DID NOT give Trump blanket immunity..."My reading is that of a Supreme Court Justice. Go argue with her.
"The President of the United States is the most powerful person in the country, and possibly the world[ ...] Orders the Navy’s Seal Team 6 to assassinate a political rival? Immune. Organizes a military coup to hold onto power? Immune. Takes a bribe in exchange for a pardon? Immune. Immune, immune, immune."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/01/sonia-sotomayor-dissent-trump-immunity-case@clintruin I don't care to argue with you. You're telling people to give up. You're whole reason for being here is to tell us Trump has won. You've become MAGA by default.
They are murdering people. Now is not the time. Quit polluting the internet with your noise.
Dissent in a case means nothing. Shut up.
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@clintruin I don't care to argue with you. You're telling people to give up. You're whole reason for being here is to tell us Trump has won. You've become MAGA by default.
They are murdering people. Now is not the time. Quit polluting the internet with your noise.
Dissent in a case means nothing. Shut up.
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@clintruin You're being a fascist. You are a fascist.
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@clintruin You're being a fascist. You are a fascist.
@clintruin Trump hasn't mentioned Canada in like a year and you're quoting the wrong things.
SHUT UP.
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@clintruin Trump hasn't mentioned Canada in like a year and you're quoting the wrong things.
SHUT UP.
@clintruin ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU LIVE IN CANADA - YOU'RE TELLING AMERICANS TO GIVE UP AND GIVE IN TO TRUMP
YOU ARE A FASCIST
