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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent.

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  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

    sheislaurenceS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @theleftistlawyer unfortunately from abroad it seems that the majority of US citizens have long stopped separating reality from fiction and therefore in their minds Judge Dredd probably set a legal precedent circa 1980.

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    • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

      @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
      There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

      That is darkly hilarious.

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      @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer Eat all the dicks, you absolute tool.

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      • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

        @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
        There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

        That is darkly hilarious.

        WesDymW This user is from outside of this forum
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        @clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.

        Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.

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        • WesDymW WesDym

          @clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.

          Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.

          Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @wesdym
          "Cynicism has never solved any human problem"

          Please understand I pray I'm wrong. I really do. But dangerous naivete has never solved any human problems either.

          The President of the United States says he wants to make my country the 51st state, I believe my cynicism is well earned...not to mention FOUR YEARS of nothing after J6...the most clear cut example I have seen of treason in my lifetime.

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          • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

            Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

            Tofu GolemT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @theleftistlawyer
            That's not how things work in America anymore.

            Thankfully, we can accuse ICE members of being criminals and execute them on the spot without trial, because criminals don't deserve due process.

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            • AriaflameA Ariaflame

              @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer The people trying to spread despair and discourage people from voting could be suspected of being bots working for Russia. I mean, that's what a reasonable supposition would be of such people.

              Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ariaflame @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
              "Everything is ultimately peculiar and ultimately ridiculous."
              - Thomas Ligotti

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              • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

                crazyeddieC This user is from outside of this forum
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                @theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.

                It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.

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                • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                  Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

                  Moreno Colaiacovo 🧬🇮🇹E This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Moreno Colaiacovo 🧬🇮🇹
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                  @theleftistlawyer That's basic! But the US is not a normal country anymore, it seems

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                  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

                    robobertoR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @theleftistlawyer A nation of losers. Murders its kids for decades, just to keep the populace armed. Then roles over when a pedophile russian agent illegally captures their government with its goons.

                    All the while threatening to send its mindless hordes to civilized countries.

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                    • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                      Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                      @theleftistlawyer absolutely correct!! Of course, the same applies to the law enforcement folks🤷🏻‍♂️

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                      • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                        @theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.

                        It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.

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                        @crazyeddie ianal but it seems to me:

                        1 there's a material difference between an accusation and an execution.

                        2. for it to be slander, the accusation needs to be false.

                        Anyway, anything goes in the us these days, so you might still be right for all I know.

                        @theleftistlawyer

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                        • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                          Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                          @theleftistlawyer Gentle reminder to do content warnings, please 🙂

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                          • WesDymW WesDym

                            @clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.

                            Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.

                            The Silicon SorceressS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @wesdym When I see someone talking about elections or impeachment as a useful tool it tells me that they do not understand the scope of the problem.

                            That's not cynicism.

                            Impeachment failed twice because the republican party won't voluntarily give up power. The mid-terms only have power if elections are free, fair and binding.

                            You can hope for those things, but hope is not a plan.

                            Today the only viable tool for a peaceful resolution the crisis is economically disruptive direct action.

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                            • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                              Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

                              robobertoR This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @theleftistlawyer please do something about these fucks.

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                              • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                                @theleftistlawyer
                                Yes. This is what the law says.

                                Of course, the law also says no one is above the law.

                                That all ended on July 1st 2024 when the Supreme Court of the United States granted one man total immunity from prosecution. A man who could then, in turn, pardon anyone he feels like.

                                The American Constitution cannot exist side by side with one man who stands above it all...
                                ...Like A King.

                                ☠️ 🇺🇸 ☠️

                                Joe AlexanderJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @clintruin

                                Shut the fuck up about this already

                                This can't be your fucking reply to everything -- all of you, please stop about the Supreme Court -- it DID NOT give Trump blanket immunity for anything and everything. Your reading is wrong.

                                You're telling people to give up. It's not helpful. You're working for Trump.

                                It's not clever. You're not helping. You're being a child.

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                                • ⁂iwein⁂I ⁂iwein⁂

                                  @crazyeddie ianal but it seems to me:

                                  1 there's a material difference between an accusation and an execution.

                                  2. for it to be slander, the accusation needs to be false.

                                  Anyway, anything goes in the us these days, so you might still be right for all I know.

                                  @theleftistlawyer

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                                  @iwein @crazyeddie @theleftistlawyer no, they are right - despite seeing the video the officer is "accused" of murder. There aren't exceptions to this. Not for ICE, not for pedophiles, immigrants or anything.

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                                  • The Silicon SorceressS The Silicon Sorceress

                                    @wesdym When I see someone talking about elections or impeachment as a useful tool it tells me that they do not understand the scope of the problem.

                                    That's not cynicism.

                                    Impeachment failed twice because the republican party won't voluntarily give up power. The mid-terms only have power if elections are free, fair and binding.

                                    You can hope for those things, but hope is not a plan.

                                    Today the only viable tool for a peaceful resolution the crisis is economically disruptive direct action.

                                    WesDymW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @simagick You ARE being needlessly cynical, I'm sorry.

                                    30-day mute.

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                                    • sheislaurenceS sheislaurence

                                      @theleftistlawyer unfortunately from abroad it seems that the majority of US citizens have long stopped separating reality from fiction and therefore in their minds Judge Dredd probably set a legal precedent circa 1980.

                                      Joe AlexanderJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @sheislaurence you're actually suggesting the majority of Americans support this? I mean, you can just insult millions of people despite the evidence I guess. I love when prejudice is okay.

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                                      • Joe AlexanderJ Joe Alexander

                                        @sheislaurence you're actually suggesting the majority of Americans support this? I mean, you can just insult millions of people despite the evidence I guess. I love when prejudice is okay.

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                                        @sheislaurence I guess it's supposed to be funny or edgy, but also like, the majority of us now dislike YOU because you're saying something really terrible about us without any reason to do it...

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                                        • Joe AlexanderJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @johnzajac @theleftistlawyer You just took what klan members post on sites like Facebook and Reddit (i.e. Floyd was a rapist, etc) and attributed it to the media. This thread is kind of funny.

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