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We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • PaulT Paul

    @ikuturso @sam @EUCommission your guess is correct. most of the DSA applies only to platforms >45 million monthly active users: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#Designation_of_VLOPs_and_VLOSEs So if the fediverse, including loops, actually stays federated, meaning not too many people use the same instance (or different instances run by the same operator), its structure makes it inherently exempt.

    SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sam
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    #15

    @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

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    • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

      @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

      Vido

      A creative community for sharing short videos and connecting with others.

      favicon

      (vido.social)

      aria :blobcattrans:A This user is from outside of this forum
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      aria :blobcattrans:
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      #16

      @stux @EUCommission I don't think we need short-video platforms at all

      The purpose of the very idea of a short video platform is to be addictive and detrimental to attention spans.

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      • European CommissionE European Commission

        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

        Key features of the addictive design:
        πŸ”ΉInfinite scroll
        πŸ”ΉAutoplay
        πŸ”ΉPush notifications
        πŸ”ΉHighly personalised recommender system

        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

        WoefdramH This user is from outside of this forum
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        Woefdram
        wrote on last edited by
        #17

        @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

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        • European CommissionE European Commission

          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

          Key features of the addictive design:
          πŸ”ΉInfinite scroll
          πŸ”ΉAutoplay
          πŸ”ΉPush notifications
          πŸ”ΉHighly personalised recommender system

          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

          Albert CardonaA This user is from outside of this forum
          Albert CardonaA This user is from outside of this forum
          Albert Cardona
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          #18

          @EUCommission

          "Kids between 12 and 15 spend 4 to 5 hours daily on Tiktok."

          140 million users in the European Union alone.

          Tiktok sure is an abomination but one must ask as well why parents and grandparents are so busy that they can't properly engage with their own kids. The cost of living crisis made of Tiktok a convenient child minder. Same with Youtube, on that regard.

          #Europe #EuropeanUnion #Tiktok

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          • European CommissionE European Commission

            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

            Key features of the addictive design:
            πŸ”ΉInfinite scroll
            πŸ”ΉAutoplay
            πŸ”ΉPush notifications
            πŸ”ΉHighly personalised recommender system

            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

            atlovatoA This user is from outside of this forum
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            atlovato
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            #19

            @EUCommission - What an App to lose brain cells.

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            • SamS Sam

              @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

              PaulT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Paul
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              #20

              @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

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              • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

                @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

                Vido

                A creative community for sharing short videos and connecting with others.

                favicon

                (vido.social)

                Athavariel πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦A This user is from outside of this forum
                Athavariel πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦A This user is from outside of this forum
                Athavariel πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
                wrote on last edited by
                #21

                @EUCommission listen to this guy @stux

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                • European CommissionE European Commission

                  We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                  There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                  Key features of the addictive design:
                  πŸ”ΉInfinite scroll
                  πŸ”ΉAutoplay
                  πŸ”ΉPush notifications
                  πŸ”ΉHighly personalised recommender system

                  We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                  TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                  https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                  Martín Pescador 🌍🐝M This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Martín Pescador 🌍🐝
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                  #22

                  @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

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                  • MartΓ­n Pescador 🌍🐝M MartΓ­n Pescador 🌍🐝

                    @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

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                    Sam
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                    #23

                    @minfer@masto.es @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Knowing Search Engines do, most likely newspapers, blogs and more might get into that category to, unless it only counts when it's interaction on the website directly.

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                    • PaulT Paul

                      @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

                      SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Sam
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                      #24

                      @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

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                      • grob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦G grob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                        @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

                        European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
                        European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
                        European Commission
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                        #25

                        Hi there, @grob!
                        The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
                        You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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                        • axel.A axel.

                          @EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.

                          European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          European Commission
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                          #26

                          Hello @axeln, META also falls under the category of "Very Large Online Platforms", which we supervise.
                          You can find an overview of all ongoing investigations for all these large companies here:
                          https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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                          • En fri prinsJ En fri prins

                            @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! πŸ˜‰

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                            That One Walnut
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                            #27

                            @jonben @EUCommission

                            Do you know how a fine works? Tiktok has to PAY US up to 6%, not the other way around lol

                            Jokes aside, it deserves a ban, but Gen Alpha would riot

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                            • WoefdramH Woefdram

                              @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

                              European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
                              European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
                              European Commission
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                              In a recent example, the company X was fined €120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                              You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

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                              • SamS Sam

                                @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

                                PaulT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Paul
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                                #29

                                @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso
                                If it were clear to the userbase that they were on different instances, maybe πŸ˜‰

                                Threads does federate with other ActivityPub services afaik. I followed some Threads accounts when it first opened. It's just de-facto unfederated now cause many large non-corporate instances have since blocked them. I understand why. Meta has unceremoniously scrapped open protocols before (Facebook messenger had XMPP when it first started). So their commitment is unreliable at best.

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                                • European CommissionE European Commission

                                  Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                                  In a recent example, the company X was fined €120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                                  You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

                                  WoefdramH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  WoefdramH This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Woefdram
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #30

                                  @EUCommission Thanks for the reaction πŸ‘οΈ

                                  The €120 million for X doesn't mean a lot, that doesn't hurt. Small price to pay for spreading desinformation and influencing European elections. Eloon would pay that with a big smile on his face.

                                  A fine of 6% of the annual global revenue would hurt, that's the type of fine that sends the message "we're serious".

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                                  • European CommissionE European Commission

                                    Hi there, @grob!
                                    The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
                                    You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

                                    grob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦G This user is from outside of this forum
                                    grob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦G This user is from outside of this forum
                                    grob πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @EUCommission πŸ’ͺ keep it up! Rule of law is what I'm here for πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί

                                    But please do not make client side scanning in any way part of that law. It is so dangerous! Imagine an autocracy had that kind of access to its citizens' data and thought.

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                                    • European CommissionE European Commission

                                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                      Key features of the addictive design:
                                      πŸ”ΉInfinite scroll
                                      πŸ”ΉAutoplay
                                      πŸ”ΉPush notifications
                                      πŸ”ΉHighly personalised recommender system

                                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                      Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Mensch, Marina
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

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                                      • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                                        @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

                                        QuincyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Quincy
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                                        #33

                                        @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                        I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                                        • QuincyQ Quincy

                                          @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                          I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

                                          Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Mensch, Marina
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @quincy even better πŸ˜‰ @EUCommission

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