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We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • SamS Sam

    @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social That is amazing, especially as if they are counting as only local users and not connected users through federation.

    PaulT This user is from outside of this forum
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    Paul
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    #20

    @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

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    • stux :stux_santa:S stux :stux_santa:

      @EUCommission OR join our #FOSS alternative called #Loops!

      Vido

      A creative community for sharing short videos and connecting with others.

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      (vido.social)

      Athavariel ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆA This user is from outside of this forum
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      Athavariel ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      @EUCommission listen to this guy @stux

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      • European CommissionE European Commission

        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

        Key features of the addictive design:
        ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
        ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
        ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
        ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

        Martรญn Pescador ๐ŸŒ๐ŸM This user is from outside of this forum
        Martรญn Pescador ๐ŸŒ๐ŸM This user is from outside of this forum
        Martรญn Pescador ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ
        wrote on last edited by
        #22

        @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

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        • Martรญn Pescador ๐ŸŒ๐ŸM Martรญn Pescador ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ

          @EUCommission I think that most apps fall in this same category. Not only social networks but even newspapers.

          SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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          Sam
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          #23

          @minfer@masto.es @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Knowing Search Engines do, most likely newspapers, blogs and more might get into that category to, unless it only counts when it's interaction on the website directly.

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          • PaulT Paul

            @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

            SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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            Sam
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            #24

            @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

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            • grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆG grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

              @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

              European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
              European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
              European Commission
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              #25

              Hi there, @grob!
              The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
              You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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              • axel.A axel.

                @EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.

                European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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                European Commission
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                #26

                Hello @axeln, META also falls under the category of "Very Large Online Platforms", which we supervise.
                You can find an overview of all ongoing investigations for all these large companies here:
                https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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                • En fri prinsJ En fri prins

                  @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  That One WalnutT This user is from outside of this forum
                  That One WalnutT This user is from outside of this forum
                  That One Walnut
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                  #27

                  @jonben @EUCommission

                  Do you know how a fine works? Tiktok has to PAY US up to 6%, not the other way around lol

                  Jokes aside, it deserves a ban, but Gen Alpha would riot

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                  • WoefdramH Woefdram

                    @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

                    European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    European Commission
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                    In a recent example, the company X was fined โ‚ฌ120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                    You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

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                    • SamS Sam

                      @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

                      PaulT This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Paul
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                      #29

                      @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso
                      If it were clear to the userbase that they were on different instances, maybe ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Threads does federate with other ActivityPub services afaik. I followed some Threads accounts when it first opened. It's just de-facto unfederated now cause many large non-corporate instances have since blocked them. I understand why. Meta has unceremoniously scrapped open protocols before (Facebook messenger had XMPP when it first started). So their commitment is unreliable at best.

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                      • European CommissionE European Commission

                        Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                        In a recent example, the company X was fined โ‚ฌ120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                        You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

                        WoefdramH This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Woefdram
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                        #30

                        @EUCommission Thanks for the reaction ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

                        The โ‚ฌ120 million for X doesn't mean a lot, that doesn't hurt. Small price to pay for spreading desinformation and influencing European elections. Eloon would pay that with a big smile on his face.

                        A fine of 6% of the annual global revenue would hurt, that's the type of fine that sends the message "we're serious".

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                        • European CommissionE European Commission

                          Hi there, @grob!
                          The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
                          You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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                          grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #31

                          @EUCommission ๐Ÿ’ช keep it up! Rule of law is what I'm here for ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

                          But please do not make client side scanning in any way part of that law. It is so dangerous! Imagine an autocracy had that kind of access to its citizens' data and thought.

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                          • European CommissionE European Commission

                            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                            Key features of the addictive design:
                            ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                            ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                            ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                            ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                            Mensch, Marina
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                            #32

                            @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

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                            • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                              @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

                              QuincyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Quincy
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              @energisch_ @EUCommission

                              I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                              • QuincyQ Quincy

                                @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                                Mensch, Marina
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #34

                                @quincy even better ๐Ÿ˜‰ @EUCommission

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                                • European CommissionE European Commission

                                  We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                  There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                  Key features of the addictive design:
                                  ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                  ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                  ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                  ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                  We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                  TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                  https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                  QQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Q
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  @EUCommission STOP THE CENSORSHIP AND THE SPYING ON US

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                                  • European CommissionE European Commission

                                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                    Key features of the addictive design:
                                    ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                    ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                    ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                    ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                    Razvan NicolescuR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Razvan Nicolescu
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                                    #36

                                    @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

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                                    • European CommissionE European Commission

                                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                      Key features of the addictive design:
                                      ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                      ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                      ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                      ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                      pomubiengP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      pomubieng
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      @EUCommission facebook, instagram and x also have this addictive features in their designโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ™„ I guess that you apply the same logic as in sanctioning Russia but not Israel (their worse crimes do not bother you the least).

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                                      • Razvan NicolescuR Razvan Nicolescu

                                        @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

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                                        SamS This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Sam
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #38

                                        @RazvanNicolescu02@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu https://break3.social/notes/aiejgddc9ljk0tao

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                                        • QuincyQ Quincy

                                          @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                          I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                                          Leipoa ocellata
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #39

                                          @quincy
                                          I second that.
                                          @energisch_ @EUCommission

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