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We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

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  • PaulT Paul

    @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso I think adding all up would be hard to argue, because one instance operator doesn't have influence over the experience of other instances' users. (doesn't mean someone won't try and fail to make that argument at some point). I imagine the Commission would add up users if the same person or company runs multiple instances, which makes sense. Think: Meta opening multiple Threads instances, splitting the userbase & federating between them to avoid DSA rules.

    SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sam
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    #24

    @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

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    • grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆG grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

      @EUCommission I can't help the feeling the EU is finally waking up and prepared to throw its weight around.

      European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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      European Commission
      wrote on last edited by
      #25

      Hi there, @grob!
      The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
      You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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      • axel.A axel.

        @EUCommission Thank you. Next up: Insta.

        European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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        European Commission
        wrote on last edited by
        #26

        Hello @axeln, META also falls under the category of "Very Large Online Platforms", which we supervise.
        You can find an overview of all ongoing investigations for all these large companies here:
        https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

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        • En fri prinsJ En fri prins

          @EUCommission Please save us some taxpayer Euros and just ban the blasted thing! ๐Ÿ˜‰

          That One WalnutT This user is from outside of this forum
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          That One Walnut
          wrote on last edited by
          #27

          @jonben @EUCommission

          Do you know how a fine works? Tiktok has to PAY US up to 6%, not the other way around lol

          Jokes aside, it deserves a ban, but Gen Alpha would riot

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          • WoefdramH Woefdram

            @EUCommission Great, now give them a fine that really hurts.

            European CommissionE This user is from outside of this forum
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            European Commission
            wrote on last edited by
            #28

            Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
            In a recent example, the company X was fined โ‚ฌ120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
            You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

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            • SamS Sam

              @tehpw@mstdn.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu @ikuturso@mastodon.social Tbh if Threads done that, it would make it a lot better of a push for full federation between the rest of things as I think they are still on a strange partial federation.

              PaulT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Paul
              wrote on last edited by
              #29

              @sam @EUCommission @ikuturso
              If it were clear to the userbase that they were on different instances, maybe ๐Ÿ˜‰

              Threads does federate with other ActivityPub services afaik. I followed some Threads accounts when it first opened. It's just de-facto unfederated now cause many large non-corporate instances have since blocked them. I understand why. Meta has unceremoniously scrapped open protocols before (Facebook messenger had XMPP when it first started). So their commitment is unreliable at best.

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              • European CommissionE European Commission

                Hello @hans! First, TikTok now as the right to a written defence. After this, if a breach of the DSA is established, a fine can indeed be a consequence.
                In a recent example, the company X was fined โ‚ฌ120 million for breaching transparency obligations, including deceptive design practices and lack of transparency in its advertising repository.
                You can learn more about how enforcement proceedings work here: https://link.europa.eu/3kC9Vg

                WoefdramH This user is from outside of this forum
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                Woefdram
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                #30

                @EUCommission Thanks for the reaction ๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

                The โ‚ฌ120 million for X doesn't mean a lot, that doesn't hurt. Small price to pay for spreading desinformation and influencing European elections. Eloon would pay that with a big smile on his face.

                A fine of 6% of the annual global revenue would hurt, that's the type of fine that sends the message "we're serious".

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                • European CommissionE European Commission

                  Hi there, @grob!
                  The DSA has been in force since November 2022, and fully applicable since February 2024. Since then we have launched many investigations, made companies comply to our rules, and fined some.
                  You can find a comprehensive overview of other companies we are supervising here: https://link.europa.eu/ngkJPH

                  grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆG This user is from outside of this forum
                  grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆG This user is from outside of this forum
                  grob ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #31

                  @EUCommission ๐Ÿ’ช keep it up! Rule of law is what I'm here for ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

                  But please do not make client side scanning in any way part of that law. It is so dangerous! Imagine an autocracy had that kind of access to its citizens' data and thought.

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                  • European CommissionE European Commission

                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                    Key features of the addictive design:
                    ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                    ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                    ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                    ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                    Mensch, MarinaE This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Mensch, Marina
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #32

                    @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

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                    • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                      @EUCommission 6% only? why not 10? make it a fine that's worthwhile the ensuing law suits!

                      QuincyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Quincy
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #33

                      @energisch_ @EUCommission

                      I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                      • QuincyQ Quincy

                        @energisch_ @EUCommission

                        I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

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                        Mensch, Marina
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #34

                        @quincy even better ๐Ÿ˜‰ @EUCommission

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                        • European CommissionE European Commission

                          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                          Key features of the addictive design:
                          ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                          ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                          ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                          ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                          QQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Q
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #35

                          @EUCommission STOP THE CENSORSHIP AND THE SPYING ON US

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                          • European CommissionE European Commission

                            We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                            There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                            Key features of the addictive design:
                            ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                            ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                            ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                            ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                            We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                            TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                            https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                            Razvan NicolescuR This user is from outside of this forum
                            Razvan NicolescuR This user is from outside of this forum
                            Razvan Nicolescu
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #36

                            @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

                            SamS Daniรซl de KokD 2 Replies Last reply
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                            • European CommissionE European Commission

                              We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                              There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                              Key features of the addictive design:
                              ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                              ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                              ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                              ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                              We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                              TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                              https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                              pomubiengP This user is from outside of this forum
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                              pomubieng
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #37

                              @EUCommission facebook, instagram and x also have this addictive features in their designโ€ฆ ๐Ÿ™„ I guess that you apply the same logic as in sanctioning Russia but not Israel (their worse crimes do not bother you the least).

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                              • Razvan NicolescuR Razvan Nicolescu

                                @EUCommission So all social media, including Mastodon, should be banned too?

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                                Sam
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #38

                                @RazvanNicolescu02@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu https://break3.social/notes/aiejgddc9ljk0tao

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                                • QuincyQ Quincy

                                  @energisch_ @EUCommission

                                  I'm for 100%, considering how long these companies have been disrupting democracy on purpose.

                                  Leipoa ocellataL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Leipoa ocellata
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #39

                                  @quincy
                                  I second that.
                                  @energisch_ @EUCommission

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                                  • European CommissionE European Commission

                                    We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                    There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                    Key features of the addictive design:
                                    ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                    ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                    ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                    ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                    We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                    TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                    https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                    AgnesBCA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    AgnesBC
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #40

                                    @EUCommission Errr... Mastodon has infinite scroll!

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                                    • European CommissionE European Commission

                                      We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                      There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                      Key features of the addictive design:
                                      ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                      ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                      ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                      ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                      We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                      TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                      https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                      Leonid
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #41

                                      @EUCommission right move, only first three listed aspects are misleading, because practically every application with a news feed does the same thing. The recommender system and ignoring the parental controls on the other hand are plausible.

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                                      • European CommissionE European Commission

                                        We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                        There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                        Key features of the addictive design:
                                        ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                        ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                        ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                        ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                        We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                        TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                        https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

                                        Paul in de EmiratenP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Paul in de Emiraten
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #42

                                        @EUCommission I preliminary found that the European Commission is focussing to much on petty issues instead of focussing on:

                                        * A coherent energy & grid strategy
                                        * The demographic collapse & lack of labor mobility
                                        * A truly unified European capital market
                                        * The erosion of democratic legitimacy through the judicial expansion.

                                        The European Commission can now excercise its right to reply to me.

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                                        • European CommissionE European Commission

                                          We've preliminary found that TikTok is in breach of the DSA for its addictive design.

                                          There are important indicators of compulsive use of the app that TikTok has disregarded in its risk assessment.

                                          Key features of the addictive design:
                                          ๐Ÿ”นInfinite scroll
                                          ๐Ÿ”นAutoplay
                                          ๐Ÿ”นPush notifications
                                          ๐Ÿ”นHighly personalised recommender system

                                          We consider that TikTok needs to change the basic design of its service.

                                          TikTok can now exercise its right to examine and reply to the finding.

                                          https://link.europa.eu/9fTwmJ

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                                          Afficionado
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #43

                                          @EUCommission Based on those wordings, I don't see the difference to Instagram, Facebook or Snap.

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