What the actual fuck?
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I presume habeas corpus petitions will be filed shortly, to find out where and on what basis ICE is detaining three US citizen Oglala Sioux.
ICE's has very limited police powers. They are restricted to immigration enforcement. They have no authority to make random stops, to detain generally, or to enter into any private space without a warrant signed by an Art. III judge.
@huntingdon @VisualStuart ICE has any power they take for themselves until someone actually stops them. And juridical methods don’t count at ”stopping” unless there is actual enforcement.
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.
There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.
This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.
I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".
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@VisualStuart Native Americans aren't white enough. That's a crime with this government.
And where are the dems? Slurping scum off the underbrush somewhere like the spineless slugs they are.
I say to hell with Blue and Red. They are both failures. We need new and better ideas in govt.
@TrimTab @VisualStuart historically the people vote for whoever promises copius looting opportunities from pillaging the undesirables. unfortunately there's a viscous rumour going around the green party plans to pay out in trump coins instead of dhs contracts so they don't get any love at the polls. lettuce for everyone #votegreen
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@VisualStuart
I didn't consider "tribal members" as somehow false, but I wondered myself how Natives could be forced to apply for immigration.@angeldruckt @VisualStuart The agreement could be a legal immunity agreement. Tribes vs fed govt has a different standing than fed govt and indiv citizens. Likely US is contravening a treaty with a legally designated nation, here, and wants a get out of jail free to let its members go. My guess anyway
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart Statute? Why do you think that's a rebuttal?
Your Stasi is not bound by anything written and can do what it wants. To anyone within -- or without -- your borders.
And that's what the voters of the USA voted for. Or didn't vote against, because black woman and all that jazz.
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@VisualStuart “Homeland Security refused to release more information, unless the tribe “entered into an immigration agreement with ICE.””
The heck kind of agreement?
@VisualStuart @Laukidh warehouse detained people?
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart So, walls and checkpoints on every tribal border within the country. And the tribes will pay for them!
</snark>
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@VisualStuart so, hostages
@ferrix @VisualStuart Prisoners of war? But no, since the Red Cross cannot visit we must assume they are hostages (in the best case). In the worst case, they will become “examples.” No joke.
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart
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German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.
There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.
This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.
I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".
@nielso @VisualStuart I think SS fits better. -
What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart well , maybe the ICE wants to know if they are allowed in the US.
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@samiamsam @VisualStuart you seem to be under the impression that this is still about immigration. It's not. Not a white christian? You're a target. Please, wake up.
@misjavanlaatum @samiamsam @VisualStuart plenty of white Christians are also targets anyway. Good was one. But yes, thinking they'd ever stop at immigrants is darkly laughable.
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart does this mean the US government now recognizes the Indian tribes as independent sovereign nations again?
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart The 47 regime is making this shit up as they go along ... pure idiocy in the furtherance of American fash.
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German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.
There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.
This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.
I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".
@nielso @VisualStuart I’ll be honest, I use ICE and Gestapo interchangeably, because I believe they are synonymous. I’m not an expert on fascism, but I know it when I see it.
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ICE are openly admitting it isn't about "immigration", it's all about white supremacy.
White Supremacy Enforcement would be a more accurate name.
Where the F are they going to "deport" Native Americans to?
What every US citizen can simply do NOW:
get an ever growing mass of concerned to
contact their reps, write/phone/email/scream outside their offices,
with #impeachment demand, or, we #primary you with someone who will;
find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative#do #Democracy
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart the agreement will of course stipulate that ICE and all other "amercian non natives" are now immigrants and have to be deported. Yes?
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German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.
There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.
This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.
I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".
@nielso @VisualStuart and this times require humans that stand up for the ones who cant defend themselves. I somehow miss them in the Land of the brave. Pls correct me if wrong.
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What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.
Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?
Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention
The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.
AP News (apnews.com)
@VisualStuart this is kidnapping.
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@nielso @VisualStuart I’ll be honest, I use ICE and Gestapo interchangeably, because I believe they are synonymous. I’m not an expert on fascism, but I know it when I see it.
@MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart Referring to ICE as the Gestapo might imply that they are shrewd political operators, but this group of thugs is much closer to a classic American lynch mob.
