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  • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

    What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

    Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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    The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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    @VisualStuart So, walls and checkpoints on every tribal border within the country. And the tribes will pay for them!

    </snark>

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    • Greg BellF Greg Bell

      @VisualStuart so, hostages

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      @ferrix @VisualStuart Prisoners of war? But no, since the Red Cross cannot visit we must assume they are hostages (in the best case). In the worst case, they will become β€œexamples.” No joke.

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      • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

        What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

        Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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        Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

        The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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        #33

        @VisualStuart
        So they're hostages.

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        • NielsoN Nielso

          @VisualStuart

          German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.

          There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.

          This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.

          I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".

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          @nielso @VisualStuart I think SS fits better.
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          • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

            What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

            Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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            Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

            The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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            wrote last edited by
            #35

            @VisualStuart well , maybe the ICE wants to know if they are allowed in the US.

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            • Misja van LaatumM Misja van Laatum

              @samiamsam @VisualStuart you seem to be under the impression that this is still about immigration. It's not. Not a white christian? You're a target. Please, wake up.

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              @misjavanlaatum @samiamsam @VisualStuart plenty of white Christians are also targets anyway. Good was one. But yes, thinking they'd ever stop at immigrants is darkly laughable.

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              • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                #37

                @VisualStuart does this mean the US government now recognizes the Indian tribes as independent sovereign nations again?

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                • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                  What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                  Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                  Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                  The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                  #38

                  @VisualStuart The 47 regime is making this shit up as they go along ... pure idiocy in the furtherance of American fash.

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                  • NielsoN Nielso

                    @VisualStuart

                    German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.

                    There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.

                    This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.

                    I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #39

                    @nielso @VisualStuart I’ll be honest, I use ICE and Gestapo interchangeably, because I believe they are synonymous. I’m not an expert on fascism, but I know it when I see it.

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                    • FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆF FediThing πŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆ

                      @VisualStuart

                      😑

                      ICE are openly admitting it isn't about "immigration", it's all about white supremacy.

                      White Supremacy Enforcement would be a more accurate name.

                      Where the F are they going to "deport" Native Americans to?

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                      @FediThing @VisualStuart

                      What every US citizen can simply do NOW:
                      get an ever growing mass of concerned to
                      contact their reps, write/phone/email/scream outside their offices,
                      with #impeachment demand, or, we #primary you with someone who will;
                      find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
                      https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative#

                      do #Democracy

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                      • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                        What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                        Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                        Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                        The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                        #41

                        @VisualStuart the agreement will of course stipulate that ICE and all other "amercian non natives" are now immigrants and have to be deported. Yes?

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                        • NielsoN Nielso

                          @VisualStuart

                          German here. Sorry to inform you, but our history shows that it is not relevant whether or not you are citizen of your own country when fascism gets to do its stuff.

                          There is no right side to be on in such a system. The border line between being right or wrong person may shift any time. You can be next.

                          This is not about immigrants or native Americans. It is about whether or not you are a person fitting into a scheme of a fascist system – nor not.

                          I guess this is why some YouTubers have replaced the term ICE with "Gestapo".

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                          @nielso @VisualStuart and this times require humans that stand up for the ones who cant defend themselves. I somehow miss them in the Land of the brave. Pls correct me if wrong.

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                          • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                            What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                            Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                            Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                            The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                            #43

                            @VisualStuart this is kidnapping.

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                            • MissConstrueM MissConstrue

                              @nielso @VisualStuart I’ll be honest, I use ICE and Gestapo interchangeably, because I believe they are synonymous. I’m not an expert on fascism, but I know it when I see it.

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                              @MissConstrue @nielso @VisualStuart Referring to ICE as the Gestapo might imply that they are shrewd political operators, but this group of thugs is much closer to a classic American lynch mob.

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                              • tlariv@mastodon.cloudT tlariv@mastodon.cloud

                                @VisualStuart
                                So they're hostages.

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                                @tlariv @VisualStuart that's true, I suppose

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                                • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                  What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                  Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                  Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                  The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                  @VisualStuart Sounds about Reich.

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                                  • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                    What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                    Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                    Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                    The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                    @VisualStuart Should good guys start signing up for ICE already or is reservation for other?

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                                    • FlynnOF FlynnO

                                      @dmayhood @VisualStuart
                                      Genuinely, why aren't the actual police involved? They could show some spine and differentiate themselves in a positive way.

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                                      @fella The police are very selective about which laws they feel like enforcing.

                                      @dmayhood @VisualStuart

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                                      • Magnus AhltorpA Magnus Ahltorp

                                        @huntingdon @VisualStuart ICE has any power they take for themselves until someone actually stops them. And juridical methods don’t count at ”stopping” unless there is actual enforcement.

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                                        @ahltorp @huntingdon @VisualStuart the only effective means to stop them are physics!

                                        • The #2A exists precisely to stop on the #AmericanGestapo!

                                        Why ain't people freeing those #US #citizens?

                                        • Do all those that look away believe they'll be spared??

                                        #FuckICE #fascism #Trumpism #USpol

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                                        • Stuart CelarierV Stuart Celarier

                                          What the actual fuck? ICE has been holding three members of the Oglala Sioux tribe in detention since Friday. Tribal members are US citizens by statute.

                                          Homeland Security is refusing to release any information on these tribal members, other than first names, until the tribe enters into an "immigration agreement" with ICE. Again, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

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                                          Oglala Sioux Tribe says three tribal members arrested in Minneapolis are in ICE detention

                                          The president of the Oglala Sioux Tribe in South Dakota said three of the four tribal members detained by ICE agents in Minneapolis last week have been transferred to an ICE facility and called for their immediate release.

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                                          @VisualStuart I see from other news articles that this isn't the first time ICE has swept homeless encampments to meet their quotas. It would be difficult for many homeless people to prove their citizenship, given they are so often victims of theft.

                                          Thank goodness these folk had tribal members to vouch for them.

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