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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

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  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

    I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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    SpaceCheeseWizard
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    @danirabbit Meanwhile Mamdani in New York is simply doing things at a faster rate I don't think I have ever seen in this country in my lifetime. It's actually bonkers.

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    • Adrien PlazasK Adrien Plazas

      @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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      René Seindal
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      @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

      Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

      Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

      Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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      • josh g.J josh g.

        @danirabbit
        in theory: if choices are "lose a little" or "lose a lot", it could be rational to vote for "lose a little"

        in reality land: FFS, everybody hates Trump right now, why the fuck would you actually think any concessions to their bullshit are actually necessary to win, just get out there and prove you're not an asshole

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        @joshg @danirabbit it's as much of a slam dunk (and similarly i'm surprised hasn't come up as much) as "our product uses no AI at all, anywhere, at any point in development or deployment. we hate AI and want it gone too."

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        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

          Man: *stunned confusion*

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          @danirabbit wow, sounds like you're talking with ignorant men. That's just embarassing.
          Must be frustrating AF, to the point for concerning if that's the majority. I mean what's complex about people are people, treat them like people?
          Feels like mainstream US culture is experimenting with a modern dark ages.
          Hope aware people mobilise to vote for everyone's sake.

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          • René SeindalS René Seindal

            @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

            Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

            Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

            Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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            zbrown
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            @seindal @KekunPlazas @danirabbit when Mussolini said corporatism he meant Corporatism not Corporatocracy.

            That the US has decided to use corporatism to mean something different to the rest of the world is unfortunately confusing, but they *are* different.

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            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

              I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

              man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

              Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

              Man: *stunned confusion*

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              @danirabbit How does losing your rights result in beating Trump? I don't see the logic

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              • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                Man: *stunned confusion*

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                slotos
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                @danirabbit Ah, it’s Mexico paying for the wall all over again.

                They aren’t against Trump, they are against him taking position they see themselves in.

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                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                  I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                  man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                  Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                  Man: *stunned confusion*

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                  David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
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                  @danirabbit

                  But 'we will do the bad things, but slightly more slowly than the other team' has been a winning electoral strategy for decades!

                  This is what happens when people look at Duverger's law and don't go 'well Duverger clearly had zero understanding of game theory or psychology, and look, here are a load of counterexamples from the 20th century' and instead go 'yup, that's exactly how politics works in FPTP systems'.

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                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                    I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                    man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                    Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                    Man: *stunned confusion*

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                    @danirabbit Probably the same dudes telling Ukraine they’re going to have to give up territory.

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                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                      I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                      Sjoerd Stendahl
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                      @danirabbit I see the same phenomenon in Europe. Where self-described Social Democrats govern as full neoliberals, because they wouldn't win elections with social-democratic policies. (Not even talking actual full-on leftists)

                      Like if you can't govern with your own politics, what's even the point? Governing is a method to enact certain policy, not the end-goal by itself. If you're just going to enact someone else's agenda, you simply have no right of existence.

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                      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                        I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                        Sjoerd Stendahl
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                        #23

                        @danirabbit Honestly, I'm getting so incredibly tired of politicians cheering loudly when the opposition scores a goal under the pretense that it would have been even worse if it weren't for them.

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                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                          Man: *stunned confusion*

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                          Erik H
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                          @danirabbit always seems to be "your" rights that need to be conceded. Never "my" rights. Just one of those funny things I guess

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                          • SpaceCheeseWizardS SpaceCheeseWizard

                            @danirabbit Meanwhile Mamdani in New York is simply doing things at a faster rate I don't think I have ever seen in this country in my lifetime. It's actually bonkers.

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                            Danielle Foré
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                            @SpaceCheeseWizard I saw a post that was like, every day Zohran wakes up and makes a new post that says, “hey guys I turned off the orphan crushing machine. Turns out there was just a switch for it”

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                            • Adrien PlazasK Adrien Plazas

                              @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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                              @KekunPlazas @danirabbit always has been

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                              • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                @danirabbit If any more elections happen, choice could be DumpfJunior versus IdiotVance ... now, choose the lesser evil.... the liberalistic capitalism is what enables Fascism #changeMyMind

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                                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                  @SpaceCheeseWizard I saw a post that was like, every day Zohran wakes up and makes a new post that says, “hey guys I turned off the orphan crushing machine. Turns out there was just a switch for it”

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                                  SpaceCheeseWizard
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                                  @danirabbit exactly!

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                                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                    I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                    man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                    Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                    Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                    @danirabbit you should stop having conversations with straight white men
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                                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                      I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                      man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                      Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                      Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                      @danirabbit
                                      >I keep having this imaginary argument with the imaginary white men in my head
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                                      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                        If the SAVE act passes, why would I care if Gavin Newsom is president. If all we do about ICE is make them wear body cams, why do I care if Kamala is president. If I am not allowed to pee in a public bathroom you think I give a shit if a democrat is in the White House? You’re really that privileged and all of this is a fucking game to you and my living conditions are just not real at all for you?

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                                        @danirabbit so you want to use the wrong bathroom, and don't want illegals to be deported? it seems absurd that these are the types of issues on the forefront of some people's minds, out of everything
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                                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                          Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                          @danirabbit @Tattie ugh I am definitely in a bubble because I can't imagine people around me saying that kind of nonsense. But thank you for setting them straight. That is some BS.

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