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I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

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  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

    If the SAVE act passes, why would I care if Gavin Newsom is president. If all we do about ICE is make them wear body cams, why do I care if Kamala is president. If I am not allowed to pee in a public bathroom you think I give a shit if a democrat is in the White House? You’re really that privileged and all of this is a fucking game to you and my living conditions are just not real at all for you?

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    I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

      I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

      man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

      Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

      Man: *stunned confusion*

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      @danirabbit these sentiments make the most sense when you mentally replace "in order to beat trump" with "so that I can go back to brunch"

      so that I can go back to brunch we're going to have to concede a bit on your rights

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      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

        I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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        @danirabbit what if we tried centrism again

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        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

          I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

          man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

          Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

          Man: *stunned confusion*

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          @danirabbit As a Black person who has said this and had half of Twitter call me a Republican shill… Preach.

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          • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

            I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

            man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

            Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

            Man: *stunned confusion*

            billy joe bowers-8647B This user is from outside of this forum
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            @danirabbit

            Yeah, not conceding shit. As a matter of fact we're going to take it all.

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            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

              I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

              man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

              Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

              Man: *stunned confusion*

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              @danirabbit

              Amen. If someone says fundamental rights aren’t literally for everyone, then they must somehow think they aren’t really fundamental rights.

              No one left behind. No one left out. No one excluded.

              Every person is inherently, infinitely and uniquely valuable. Period.

              #TransRightsAreHumanRights

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              • Rachel (Toxic Femininity Arc)Y Rachel (Toxic Femininity Arc)

                @danirabbit these sentiments make the most sense when you mentally replace "in order to beat trump" with "so that I can go back to brunch"

                so that I can go back to brunch we're going to have to concede a bit on your rights

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                @YKantRachelRead @danirabbit hahahaha this is so disgustingly true but also so funny but also i want to escape this whole planet

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                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                  I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                  man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                  Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                  Man: *stunned confusion*

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                  @danirabbit I hate red-browns. And liberals (in the European meaning of the word).

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                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                    I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                    @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                      I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                      man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                      Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                      Man: *stunned confusion*

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                      @danirabbit
                      in theory: if choices are "lose a little" or "lose a lot", it could be rational to vote for "lose a little"

                      in reality land: FFS, everybody hates Trump right now, why the fuck would you actually think any concessions to their bullshit are actually necessary to win, just get out there and prove you're not an asshole

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                      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                        I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                        @danirabbit Meanwhile Mamdani in New York is simply doing things at a faster rate I don't think I have ever seen in this country in my lifetime. It's actually bonkers.

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                        • Adrien PlazasK Adrien Plazas

                          @danirabbit So their program is Diet Fascism?

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                          @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

                          Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

                          Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

                          Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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                          • josh g.J josh g.

                            @danirabbit
                            in theory: if choices are "lose a little" or "lose a lot", it could be rational to vote for "lose a little"

                            in reality land: FFS, everybody hates Trump right now, why the fuck would you actually think any concessions to their bullshit are actually necessary to win, just get out there and prove you're not an asshole

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                            @joshg @danirabbit it's as much of a slam dunk (and similarly i'm surprised hasn't come up as much) as "our product uses no AI at all, anywhere, at any point in development or deployment. we hate AI and want it gone too."

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                            • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                              I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                              man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                              Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                              Man: *stunned confusion*

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                              @danirabbit wow, sounds like you're talking with ignorant men. That's just embarassing.
                              Must be frustrating AF, to the point for concerning if that's the majority. I mean what's complex about people are people, treat them like people?
                              Feels like mainstream US culture is experimenting with a modern dark ages.
                              Hope aware people mobilise to vote for everyone's sake.

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                              • René SeindalS René Seindal

                                @KekunPlazas @danirabbit

                                Fascism has always been Corporatism, to the point that even Mussolini said so.

                                Fascism is the unfettered rule of big business.

                                Big business has been funding both parties for ages.

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                                @seindal @KekunPlazas @danirabbit when Mussolini said corporatism he meant Corporatism not Corporatocracy.

                                That the US has decided to use corporatism to mean something different to the rest of the world is unfortunately confusing, but they *are* different.

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                                • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                  I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                  man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                  Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                  Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                  @danirabbit How does losing your rights result in beating Trump? I don't see the logic

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                                  • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                    I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                    man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                    Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                    Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                    @danirabbit Ah, it’s Mexico paying for the wall all over again.

                                    They aren’t against Trump, they are against him taking position they see themselves in.

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                                    • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                      I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                      man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                      Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                      Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                      @danirabbit

                                      But 'we will do the bad things, but slightly more slowly than the other team' has been a winning electoral strategy for decades!

                                      This is what happens when people look at Duverger's law and don't go 'well Duverger clearly had zero understanding of game theory or psychology, and look, here are a load of counterexamples from the 20th century' and instead go 'yup, that's exactly how politics works in FPTP systems'.

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                                      • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                        I keep having this conversation with straight white men that they are somehow perplexed by:

                                        man: in order to beat Trump we’re going to have to concede a bit on your rights

                                        Me: if you concede on my rights why the fuck do I care if you win? If I lose my rights no matter what, why does it matter to me that you beat Trump?

                                        Man: *stunned confusion*

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                                        @danirabbit Probably the same dudes telling Ukraine they’re going to have to give up territory.

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                                        • Danielle ForéD Danielle Foré

                                          I swear to god democrats are just always telling me what we have to give up ground on. I’m only ever hearing what we can’t do. What we have to compromise on. Who wants to vote for that. Get your fucking shit together and at least lie to me

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                                          @danirabbit I see the same phenomenon in Europe. Where self-described Social Democrats govern as full neoliberals, because they wouldn't win elections with social-democratic policies. (Not even talking actual full-on leftists)

                                          Like if you can't govern with your own politics, what's even the point? Governing is a method to enact certain policy, not the end-goal by itself. If you're just going to enact someone else's agenda, you simply have no right of existence.

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