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https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today.

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  • Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470

    @osm_tech wonder if it is collateral damage or intended, to get rid of alternative sources of information?
    Anyway, zip-bomb the hell out of them.

    OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO This user is from outside of this forum
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    OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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    @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

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    • George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈ

      @osm_tech@en.osm.town
      Time to deploy Anubis in front of all the URLs that the scrapers are hitting.

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      @gme Anubis is great, but not ideal for us. We have reasonable technical mitigations in place, but it is unfortunately an arms race (and time/resource blackhole)

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      • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

        @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

        Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D This user is from outside of this forum
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        Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470
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        @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side πŸ˜‰

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        • Petri SalmelaP Petri Salmela

          @ISibboI @osm_tech I think, that spreading it on 100 000+ IP addresses tells they know they are doing shady thing.

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          Gerard Thornley
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          @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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            @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech It's a pattern I've seen others relate to the building of AI datasets.

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            @pesasa @ISibboI @osm_tech
            If its helpful (if you want to stuff something unpleasant down their throats), I believe @jwz has been making a 'json bomb' for (AIUI) pretty much this purpose:
            https://mastodon.social/@jwz/116049057703097965

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            • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

              https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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              @osm_tech @lehtimaeki I wonder if anyone has looked at the various AI browsers out there to see if they're used for active scraping.

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              • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                @Don_Clemente Just dumb scrapers. They want our data, so maybe we /should/ redirect them to the latest full history planet file, it is only 245GB πŸ˜‰

                IvΓ‘n SΓ‘nchez OrtegaI This user is from outside of this forum
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                IvΓ‘n SΓ‘nchez Ortega
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                @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Replacing the actual data with Null Island data that points to planet.osm.org is not a dumb idea IMHO

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                • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                  https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

                  Martin RustM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Martin Rust
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                  @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

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                  • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                    Bill Woodcock
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                    @osm_tech

                    Please, please, AI bubble, burst already, so we can stop seeing this kind of vandalism.
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                    • nag4wikaN nag4wika

                      @osm_tech cc telecomix

                      The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
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                      The Doctor
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                      @osm_tech @nag4wika Yuh?

                      ~~~==:}}

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                      • Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470D Don Clemente πŸ”œ39C3 ☎️2470

                        @osm_tech yes, but that's heavy on your resources and bandwidth. A zip file of 10GB Zeros is much more resource-efficient on your side πŸ˜‰

                        The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @osm_tech @Don_Clemente Can confirm. >:D

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                        • Martin RustM Martin Rust

                          @osm_tech Block all read access except from registered users? And be restrictive on whom to grant an account (captcha, verified email address)?

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                          @martinrust

                          had a similar issue with a much, much smaller wiki server (πŸ˜… ) but facing the same anonymous scrapers coming from thousands of random IP's.

                          Couldn't find a way to keep them from crashing the server, so now access is by registration only.

                          Very disruptive, this "AI" race to the bottom destroyed the open internet 😟

                          @osm_tech

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                          • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                            https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                            @osm_tech I went to use OpenStreetMap today to get directions but it asked me to sign up/ log in, so I used Mapquest instead which doesn't.

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                            • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                              @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

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                              Jonas :debian: :norway_fb:
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                              @osm_tech @ISibboI Scraping the OpenStreetMap website gives of the same vibe as stealing free stuff.

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                              • Air Quotes ComedianA Air Quotes Comedian

                                @osm_tech I went to use OpenStreetMap today to get directions but it asked me to sign up/ log in, so I used Mapquest instead which doesn't.

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                                OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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                                @Air_Quotes_Comedian Weird. We don't require login for directions.

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                                • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                  @Air_Quotes_Comedian Weird. We don't require login for directions.

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                                  @osm_tech Hmmm.

                                  Perhaps I'm the only one who is required to log in for directions.

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                                  • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                    https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                                    @osm_tech thank you for your service πŸͺ–

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                                    • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                      @ISibboI Correct. Not an ounce of brain. It has been going on for months, but it is just getting worse. Waste of their resources/time and ours.

                                      Not meN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @osm_tech @ISibboI isn't there a chance that service disruption is one of the objectives?

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                                      • Not meN Not me

                                        @osm_tech @ISibboI isn't there a chance that service disruption is one of the objectives?

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                                        OpenStreetMap Ops Team
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                                        @Notme @ISibboI We are not unique in battling these scrapers; Wikipedia, KDE, Gnome, OpenWRT, Arch Linux and many other projects have the some issue.

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                                        • OpenStreetMap Ops TeamO OpenStreetMap Ops Team

                                          https://OpenStreetMap.org has been disrupted today. We're working to keep the site online while facing extreme load from anonymous scrapers spread across 100,000+ IP addresses. Please be patient while we mitigate and protect the service. #OpenStreetMap #DDoS #Scrapers #AI

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                                          @osm_tech I blocked user agents matching "Chrome.139.0.0.0 Safari.537.36" as this combination seems to not exist, except for millions of requests out of china.

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