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  3. Bill C-5 just became law with ZERO new changes. Here's what that means (it's not good)

Bill C-5 just became law with ZERO new changes. Here's what that means (it's not good)

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  • T teppa

    Theyre literally paid out of the profits. You’re spouting nonsense.

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    acargitz
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    Revenue and profits are not the same thing. If you’re going to abrasively assert stuff, at least don’t be wrong.

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      Rentlar
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      I’m upset that more deference to House MPs’ summer vacation was given in the Senate than the potential impact to our rights.

      I’m still cautiously optimistic about Bill C-5 (though Bill C-2 needs to either be scrapped or massively reworked IMO), since there could be bills to amend the laws again, or matters of discretion that come out of this summer’s consultation.

      The power is in the government now in law, but the civil and legal pushback will come depending on how forceful the government attempts to use this newly gained power.

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      • N NoneOfUrBusiness

        pretty crazy that this came from the Liberals

        Not really. Setting aside the obvious “liberalism is the precursor to fascism,” this is simply modern day colonialism, and when have liberals ever opposed colonialism?

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        bdot@lemmy.world
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        good grief. you either have a DEEP misunderstanding of the words “liberalism” and “fascism” or you’re a troll.

        or perhaps a descendant of Mussolini?

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        • G grte@lemmy.ca

          The country got hoodwinked. So distracted by Poilievre that they snuck another Harper creature in to lead the Liberals.

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          brax@sh.itjust.works
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          I don’t think there was any distraction. We had two shit choices and NDP. And since this country fails to elect NDP time after time, it was a given that we were pretty fucked. The main difference during this election between the parties that I saw were:

          1. The Liberal platform didn’t contradict itself every point or two

          2. The Liberal platform focused a lot more on domestic tourism, accessibility, and making it easier to transport our own goods across provincial borders.

          I don’t see how bill C-5 fits into any of the platform they put forward.

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          • N narrativebear@lemmy.world

            WTF is happening in the world.

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            masterofn001
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            #23

            It is the beginning of the end.

            Something something reset.

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            • B bdot@lemmy.world

              good grief. you either have a DEEP misunderstanding of the words “liberalism” and “fascism” or you’re a troll.

              or perhaps a descendant of Mussolini?

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              NoneOfUrBusiness
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              #24

              Uh… We are literally in a thread about that in action. The next time conservatives are in power they’ll be very thankful the liberals passed this.

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                Uh… We are literally in a thread about that in action. The next time conservatives are in power they’ll be very thankful the liberals passed this.

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                bdot@lemmy.world
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                yes we are in a thread, and we are witnessing some fascism from the Liberals, but that doesn’t make your statement true. did you come over here from 4chan?

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                  spacecowboy@lemmy.ca
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                  #26

                  So… it’s possible the government might do something bad in the future, so we need to outraged about it now?

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                  • spacecowboy@lemmy.caS spacecowboy@lemmy.ca

                    So… it’s possible the government might do something bad in the future, so we need to outraged about it now?

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                    derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca
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                    Yep.

                    Being complacent about how laws and ruling are currently being used, instead of being concerned about how they can be used, is why we’ve seen abortion bans and restrictions in the USA in recent years.

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                    • D derisionconsulting@lemmy.ca

                      Yep.

                      Being complacent about how laws and ruling are currently being used, instead of being concerned about how they can be used, is why we’ve seen abortion bans and restrictions in the USA in recent years.

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                      spacecowboy@lemmy.ca
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                      #28

                      That happened because Americans developed a general paranoia of the government, and since the GOP was better at mobilizing the paranoid vote than the Democrats they started losing rights.

                      People in the US are generally angry at the Democrats for being incapable of doing anything so they voted for Trump in the false hope that things would change. Or not voting at all because the internet told them the whole system is broken (PP kind of messaging). But I guess changes happened, but not anything positive.

                      The left seems have become more like what conservatives used to be like. Opposing the government on any change in favour of symbolic traditionalism.

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                      • ComradeSharkfuckerS ComradeSharkfucker

                        You receive a miniscule percentage of the value you create for your employer. The employer needs profits to increase constantly in order to provide value to the shareholders. When the total value of the company increases you at best receive the same cut of the value your produce. Usually though, your percentage cut decreases relative to total value so that the employer can extract greater value as demanded by shareholders. You aren’t paid out of the profits, they take a cut of the value you produce by virtue of owning the company. This is why wages do not increase proportionally to productivity. I am not spouting nonsense, you just aren’t equipped to understand what I am saying.

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                        Employers expend the least amount of resources necessary in order to maximize their profits, this is a practice that is not only accepted but celebrated as being “good” for the economy. So workers should follow suit and expend the least amount of their skills and labour in order to maximize their profits. If it is acceptable at the scale of billions it should be acceptable on the scale of thousands.

                        There is no ‘theft of time’ from an entity that owns more than 1/4 (plus commute) of your life.

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                        • K Kobek

                          Everyone hates Trump so much but have learned nothing. Don’t you get it? Parties are just a tool for populists, and that is exactly what Carney is.

                          I am definitely not a communist but didn’t Marx say something about false consciousness? Keep worshiping the rich because they are on your “team” and you’ll pay for it. Yeah elect a billionaire to fight another billionaire and the people are somehow going to benefit? It’s ridiculous.

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                          ComradeSharkfucker
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                          I am a communist and he did say something like that yeah. It had more to do with believing you understand why the working class struggles how it does because of some internal or external enemy corrupting the “pure nation” instead of class relations

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                          • C cyborganism

                            I think had we had a minority Conservative gouvernent with a strong NDP opposition, we would be in a much better situation.

                            I hate the conservatives but fuck the liberals for being dishonest hypocritical pieces of shit.

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                            ComradeSharkfucker
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                            #31

                            The bourgeois parties are always hypocrites. They pretend to serve the people while their only material interest is capital. Give the manifesto a shot or if you don’t want to read, listen to this speech by my favorite man. It changed my perspective on the world, genuinely.

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                              The bourgeois parties are always hypocrites. They pretend to serve the people while their only material interest is capital. Give the manifesto a shot or if you don’t want to read, listen to this speech by my favorite man. It changed my perspective on the world, genuinely.

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                              cyborganism
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                              Ohhh! I remember seeing clips of that video, but never the whole thing.

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