That’s the same lame excuse every single election. I remember in 2019 when the only ads I ever saw from the Liberals were about how we had to unite against the Conservatives and I remember last week when the same shit was going on in the Montréal municipal elections. It happens all the time and the excuse isn’t worth dirt.

I’m sick and fucking tired of it. If you can’t use your vote responsibly don’t cast it. I would like people to use their power to vote and we know that anyone who says they’re “strategically” voting is well aware of the poison they’re putting in the system and that they know whonthey would otherwise vote for. If they actually deserved to use the word “strategy” they’d know that some things take time and letting another party steal your vote is just reactionary panic and has nothing to do with anything intelligent.

Your vote is your only real voice. If you aren’t going to say what you mean and mean what you say then shut the hell up.

Not anymore. Because we shot them in the face and spat on them after the fact so we get rat-fucked by slightly less dangerous conservatives pretending to be centrists and who are only called the woke left by the far-right because those people have a single, weak braincell between all of them. Congrats, everyone, we’re stupid.

I did watch the video. Yes, people think they’re smart and will vote against themselves because they look at past elections and not at the one they’re actually voting on. Thanks for proving my point that “strategic voting” is stupid as hell and corrupts the system.

There are well-documented instances of this. Republicans supported the Green Party in the 2024 American elections, for example, providing them with legal and consulting aid. Same with independent candidate Cornel Green. This technique relies on people not voting strategically.

I’m sure the Conservative party would have been very happy if the NDP had siphoned some additional votes away from the Liberals in tightly contested ridings.

I understand where you’re coming from but this election did not use the same excuse, or I guess it did but this was the only time it’s really been valid. We were just threatened with annexation by our former ally, the most powerful country on the planet. We’ve never had an election with this much at stake, and voting NDP was literally risking losing our country to the US.

The wolves were quite literally at the gate. We could vote to open it (cons), keep it closed (libs), or work on getting rid of the wolves (ndp). NDP is clearly the best choice in this scenario, but you know full well they’d never get enough support to win, and if too many of us tried, the Cons would win and open the gate.

We need an election where Canadians take a BIG swing for chance to get out of the abusive 2 party cycle we’re in. This was not that election. I’m not arguing that Canadians are completely screwing ourselves every election, we absolutely are. What I am saying though, is given the circumstance voting Lib in the last election was the smart play. The smart play doesn’t always mean good.

Unfortunately, the NDP just weren’t an option this time. If I can’t pay my rent I have options. 1 - get a job/pick up hours at the job I have/get a second job. 2 - Sell things I own to get enough money. 3 - become rich. Although 3 is technically an option in that it is a possibility, the fact that it ain’t gonna happen right now removes it as one. Although all 3 could be possible, for rent this month only 1 and 2 are really options.

PP was not going to let the US annex us as much as he probably cums all over himself thinking about it. Hell even right now his polling is dogshit and if he tried to actually make Canada a 51st state he’d get crucified(if he didn’t then we’d fucking deserve it anyway).

The NDP is only not an option because we say and act like it isn’t. They run plenty of candidates and a vote cast for them is worth the same as a vote cast for anyone else. The Liberal voters could have just as easily “strategically” voted for the NDP but nooo we always have to vote Liberal as the default. That’s fucking stupid as hell and you can’t ignore that fact and expect me to just go “oh right I forgot that this only works in one direction!”

There is nothing strategic about strategic voting. It is only done when the centrists threaten the left, and it only works in one direction. It’s an obvious trap that we fall for every time because no one actually thinks before they do anything. We could change our behaviour so easily.

Did you know that in the election before last, even with all the shit messaging from the Liberals, the NDP got more than half their votes? They HAVE support even if our system meant that the seats weren’t there. Someone admitting that they didn’t look at the numbers with any depth isn’t a gotcha.

I’m sure! But now we just have two conservative parties so go us! Like, we haven’t fixed anything with this brain-dead behaviour, all we’ve done is temporarily made things not quite as bad for the cost of obliterating our representation and further cementing our country as a centrist and right-wing garbage hole. Carney’s government literally tried to make the Air Canada strike illegal for some fucking reason; they don’t care about you and you’re fucking yourself in your own ass with a rusty iron poker while telling everyone how clever you are for doing it.

Congratulations! You’re a big smart hero for voting away your values like a good scared little baby.

This is reactionary bullshit just to get angry because you’re online.

Yeah, that we are already benefiting enormously economically from our early investments in AI, it would be dumb not to continue, especially at a time when the US is scaring away many top international researchers.

Lmao it’s not fucking horrible, you just used the outrage machine and found people outraged by it. Congratulations, social media is toxic.

Read coverage of it from actual informed people, not dumbass YouTubers.

It is legitimately not even as simple as Canadians wanting to do something given that corporations have shown that they are very very willing to flee countries to others if they don’t like the policy there.

Redditors and Lemmings are quite frankly, naiive children in their approach to politics. Just picking the most “altruistic” path and ignoring the realities of the way the world works is not going to bring about the outcome you want.

Lmao, thinking the Liberals are far right, because they tabled a budget based on actual finances and economics is honestly, just asinine.

You people need to stop getting your news from social media. You use the outrage machine and you find someone who will make everything seem outrageous. Congratulations.

Maybe try the sober second thought machine instead?

She’s an actual journalist who used to work for the CBC. She’s not just some Youtuber.

Lmao. That is not actual journalism.

This is f-tier social media rage bait. Her reasoning boils down to ‘generational investments’ involve tax breaks to businesses, therefore generational investments are the devil.

This is literally the most garbage way to inform yourself about the budget. Go read the Guardian, or CBC, or any actual journalism. Here’s a hint: it will talk specifically about what the money is being spent on and what is being cut, it won’t just be some ranting into a camera to get clicks.

This is f-tier toxic social media rage bait.

She’s says literally nothing of substance, just makes sweeping generalizations to try and get outraged for clicks.

Go read actual written journalism.

I am totally okay with a Liberal party that marginalizes the CPC’s extreme voters by moving right and appealing to their more moderate voters, thereby also alienating people who are more on the left inside the Liberal tent so that the NDP has more potential for resurgence. Seems like the kind of thing that might be good for a multi-party system.

If the NDP had formed government before I’d completely agree. There’s just no way the last election would go to an untested party during a time we’re being threatened by the US, and fascism is building up at our doorstep.

This term is arguably one of the most difficult scenarios for a gov’t to deal with in our history. I don’t blame Canadians for wanting a gov’t that, though both good and bad, has proven they actually can govern.

This election had a lot of the markers of the WWII era when both Canada and the US voted for a gov’t and leader with experience, King and Roosevelt respectively. We didn’t have the option of a tested leader, but we did have the option of a tested party. This effectively removed the NDP as an option.

I do however think you’re right that the things you’re talking about should have been done years before, and we may have effectively screwed ourselves by not making those changes when we had the chance over the last few decades. We may never get that chance again.

My hope is that the NDP elects a strong, charismatic leader and they come out of the gate loud and hard. Scream about social programs, services, taxing corps and the wealthy, and they don’t shut up for the next 3 years.

How about you take a chill pill.

She is a journalist. She used to work for the CBC as I said. Not only was she a parliamentary press gallery reporter, but she was also a fact checker for the CBC. She was fired because of pressure from conservative groups who didn’t like to be called out for their lies. Mainly Polievre’s conservatives.

She knows what she’s talking about and found a format that could better reach today’s audience.

Maybe you’re pissed because what she said doesn’t fit your narrative? Or you don’t think women can be journalists?

No, what she said was vacuous and a broad sweeping generalization that you can learn nothing from.

The literal most basic economic comparison is that of opportunity cost, and she did not even touch on what Carney is spending the money on beyond that it must be bad because some of it is our required NATO defense spending, and some of it involves tax breaks to businesses.

Again, this is vacuous rage bait. There is a reason that serious financial and technical reports are written down and not just yammered at people, so that you can properly see and compare everything at once, using actual numbers and specifics.

Only works if the NDP are smart enough to not also lean right

Fuck off