oh and don’t forget they also want to give $1billion to AI development over the next 5 years.

It’s absolutely horrible. How disconnected are these fucking people???

I told everyone on here that voting in Mark Carney was going to be a big mistake. I was right. Yet, there are still people on here saying “give him a chance, he’s the best option we have”. No. actually. He’s not, and I see what happens when we “give him a chance”?? He fucks average Canadians over for the benefit of the rich.

They’re stuck in this 80’s Reagan-Thatcher-Mulroney era of neo-liberalism trickle down bullshit and they can’t see outside that fucking box.

Still probably much better than the alternative.

Although, as long as the populace allows corporations to financially incentivize politics, corruption is going to be the default mode.

How much farther right does the centrist party needs to go before the far-right option drops of the table and the “leftist” option becomes viable as the new center? The southern neighbour has shown us: too much

Lmao it’s not fucking horrible, you just used the outrage machine and found people outraged by it. Congratulations, social media is toxic.

Read coverage of it from actual informed people, not dumbass YouTubers.

She’s an actual journalist who used to work for the CBC. She’s not just some Youtuber.

PP was not going to let the US annex us as much as he probably cums all over himself thinking about it. Hell even right now his polling is dogshit and if he tried to actually make Canada a 51st state he’d get crucified(if he didn’t then we’d fucking deserve it anyway).

The NDP is only not an option because we say and act like it isn’t. They run plenty of candidates and a vote cast for them is worth the same as a vote cast for anyone else. The Liberal voters could have just as easily “strategically” voted for the NDP but nooo we always have to vote Liberal as the default. That’s fucking stupid as hell and you can’t ignore that fact and expect me to just go “oh right I forgot that this only works in one direction!”

There is nothing strategic about strategic voting. It is only done when the centrists threaten the left, and it only works in one direction. It’s an obvious trap that we fall for every time because no one actually thinks before they do anything. We could change our behaviour so easily.

Did you know that in the election before last, even with all the shit messaging from the Liberals, the NDP got more than half their votes? They HAVE support even if our system meant that the seats weren’t there. Someone admitting that they didn’t look at the numbers with any depth isn’t a gotcha.

Lmao. That is not actual journalism.

This is f-tier social media rage bait. Her reasoning boils down to ‘generational investments’ involve tax breaks to businesses, therefore generational investments are the devil.

This is literally the most garbage way to inform yourself about the budget. Go read the Guardian, or CBC, or any actual journalism. Here’s a hint: it will talk specifically about what the money is being spent on and what is being cut, it won’t just be some ranting into a camera to get clicks.

How about you take a chill pill.

She is a journalist. She used to work for the CBC as I said. Not only was she a parliamentary press gallery reporter, but she was also a fact checker for the CBC. She was fired because of pressure from conservative groups who didn’t like to be called out for their lies. Mainly Polievre’s conservatives.

She knows what she’s talking about and found a format that could better reach today’s audience.

Maybe you’re pissed because what she said doesn’t fit your narrative? Or you don’t think women can be journalists?

I am totally okay with a Liberal party that marginalizes the CPC’s extreme voters by moving right and appealing to their more moderate voters, thereby also alienating people who are more on the left inside the Liberal tent so that the NDP has more potential for resurgence. Seems like the kind of thing that might be good for a multi-party system.

I’m sure! But now we just have two conservative parties so go us! Like, we haven’t fixed anything with this brain-dead behaviour, all we’ve done is temporarily made things not quite as bad for the cost of obliterating our representation and further cementing our country as a centrist and right-wing garbage hole. Carney’s government literally tried to make the Air Canada strike illegal for some fucking reason; they don’t care about you and you’re fucking yourself in your own ass with a rusty iron poker while telling everyone how clever you are for doing it.

Congratulations! You’re a big smart hero for voting away your values like a good scared little baby.

Lmao, thinking the Liberals are far right, because they tabled a budget based on actual finances and economics is honestly, just asinine.

You people need to stop getting your news from social media. You use the outrage machine and you find someone who will make everything seem outrageous. Congratulations.

Maybe try the sober second thought machine instead?

Gotta admit, I’m not too clear on what you’re positing here. Yes, there’s the possibility that the liberals could go too far to the right – similar to how they’d gone too far to the left recently – and as a result essentially eliminate support for far right parties. I personally don’t think it’s too likely that either ‘extreme’ would get fully squashed, as there will always be a small segment that thinks things haven’t gone far enough.

Our southern neighbour is just, in absolute chaos at the moment. I don’t really see how anything from their current situation or their historic style of government translates to Canada’s electoral stuff in this case. In addition to having multiple parties, the structure of the legislature is also quite different. Realistically, having more parties that represent better wedges of the Canadian landscape is a net win for how well the government’s actions likely align to the people’s will.

I mean, the cons going in for that hard-right bullshit, was basically a political choice based on them figuring they wouldn’t lose the fiscally conservative/socially progressive support from the party. PP embraced US/Trump style bullshit, because he was confident his supporters who hated that, had no where to go.

Your comment was long so I guess it’s on me for not highlighting which part I was commenting on:

I’m sure part of the hope is that the liberals will shift right far enough, that the cons won’t have a viable path to full control of the government.

I’m saying this hope is misguided. The cons are solidifying as Canada’s far right and the Liberals will never be right of center enough to make the Cons not viable.

similar to how they’d gone too far to the left recently

lol I’ll read this as “too far for their own good” instead of “too far for the common good”, then I could see how that could be a thing

I don’t really see how anything from their current situation or their historic style of government translates to Canada’s electoral stuff

And yet, PP is copying the homework

Only works if the NDP are smart enough to not also lean right

Conservative floor crossers are a clear data point that refutes your proposition. I mean, it’s pretty much literal proof to the contrary.

Similarly, the liberals right leaning bias, having gained increased support from moderate right wingers, is making more far left supporters reconsider their support of the libs – making it fair to reason that the NDP will see a bit of a bump next time.

If memory serves, the harder-right social sorts were basically annihilated in the late 90s. In 1993, the conservatives had just 2 seats. The reform party from western Canada was originally a more socially neutral / fiscally progressive movement – it didn’t focus at all on women’s rights, though it did propose some modest reforms to things like immigration and the approach to quebec. It only really became more stupid, when it morphed into the Alliance, and then absorbed the Eastern conservatives to try and gain national support – and with those eastern cons came the social bullshit. But long and short, a fiscally conservative but socially progressive or neutral party likely still has the potential to undercut the far right conservatives.

It is legitimately not even as simple as Canadians wanting to do something given that corporations have shown that they are very very willing to flee countries to others if they don’t like the policy there.

Redditors and Lemmings are quite frankly, naiive children in their approach to politics. Just picking the most “altruistic” path and ignoring the realities of the way the world works is not going to bring about the outcome you want.

This is f-tier toxic social media rage bait.

She’s says literally nothing of substance, just makes sweeping generalizations to try and get outraged for clicks.

Go read actual written journalism.