Carney’s Message to the World: The Rules No Longer Protect You | The Walrus
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Thank God Pierre Pollivre wasn’t elected or this would be a much different story.
We’d probably invade Greenland ourselves if he did lol.
Thank God he didn’t win.
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This is exactly what I like to hear. The oligarchs that have made a mockery of my country’s democracy need to be put in their place. They’ve been parasites to our nation for far too long.
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Eh, I do, I voted ndp, and my riding got the candidate. Now, I still think Carney is better equipped to steer an economy so that Canada doesn’t collapse under the weight of the current monstrosity that is the US, but yes, the average person is far and away better off with the NDP.
I think we can have the nuance to believe both can be true. Meeting the world where it is, and not where we think it should be requires some reflection on priorities in any given moment. That said, I hope we can pivot towards more socialism once external economic factors have been more sorted out, despite being a banker, I do think he has Canada’s best interests in mind. Either way, we’ll see I suppose
But this is exactly the thing, strong economies are built on small amounts changing hands often. There are no situations where the economy is strong because we hand our money over to corporations. If Carney was truly the guy for our economy he wouldn’t be doing most of the things he’s doing when it comes to hurting the average person and damaging our country for private oil and gas companies.
He doesn’t give a shit about us but we’re absurdly gullible and, to rephrase my earlier Aragorn/Denethor comment “yes the progressives are looking towards studies, history, and advice from experts in the field but this Carney guy understands the economy because he’s a banker!” and we say that while almost everyone will agree, for one reason or another and to varying degrees, that banks are institutionalized theft. It sounds good unless you actually put any amount of thought into it and we are not thinking.
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Listening to him again reminded me of '08 when he helped lead us out of the Wall St shit storm. It’s the main reason I voted for him too. He tells the truth - no sugar coating, no dumb cliches, no lies to make you feel better.
I’m not happy with everything he’s done (see Bill C-2) but when things get rough he lays the cards on the table and says it like it is.
I feel like he’s the perfect person to navigate the second Trump term.
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I voted for Carney because I dreaded PP. I didn’t realize the extent of how much he would be talking out of both sides of his mouth. On one hand acting like it is all over, but on the other hand doing everything he can to appease the US and passing online and ‘strong borders’ act that effectively destroy privacy online for Canadians AND share or straight up hand that information over to the US authorities just like that.
No one voted for Carney. They all voted against Milhouse. Except Alberta.
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Can you imagine pp in this moment, jfc
PP would be negotiating the annexation of Canada in 2025. No one seems to care the head of the PC party was an actual US citizen.
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No one voted for Carney. They all voted against Milhouse. Except Alberta.
I agree with that.
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There is more to Carney than I thought.
Having read his book before the election, this is exactly who I expected when I voted.
He is good at saying the right thing, and I think this was a significant speech historically. But Carney is a conservative neoliberal and will act like one. Canada needs to be forming new alliances and other countries need to realize they should do this too. He’s right about that. But internally Canada will become weaker and weaker without left social policies, and history shows that if you immiserate the people in a time of stress, you increase the appeal of fascist demagogues. Traitors like PP are standing by to take over when the people are desperate enough. Though Carney is far smarter and bolder than Keir Starmer, domestically he is taking the same risk of handing to country to the fascists by offering nothing for ordinary people who are struggling.
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We are no longer relying on just the strength of our values but also the value of our strength
Now it would be a shame if Russia or China would make the same comment, would it not?
That was one line that stuck out as being cheap and ill-consideted. I get the point he was making but the slogan was too tempting and rang ugly.
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It wasn’t an example of a corrupt regime, though, but of a failed one. The soviet union failed to live up to the promise of workers uniting for collective ownership, and it was failing as a dictatorship. The sign in the window here is not pretending a corrupt regime wasn’t corrupt, but that a crumbling regime wasn’t crumbling.
The current world order has been crumbling for some time. No one on the world has been willing to say so. He turned around and said “let it”.
Yes, reading it charitably, the lie in the sign was the pretence that the government truly fought for the workers rather than looking after themselves.
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I know that many here and myself included, don’t appreciate his anti-worker example of the “Workers of the World Unite” being used as the lie of a corrupt regime…
That was my first thought, why the fuck did he have to dismiss and disparage workers from the very start of his speech? Then I remembered, he is a banker, he serves the bankers, and bankers have no use for workers except to bleed them dry.
It is encouraging that he recognizes SOME of the failures of the current system, but he ignored the rise of fascism world-wide, and still thinks everything will be fine if we just have more militarism and capitalism.
Reading it charitably, I think the point was that they stuck to the slogan (a perfectly noble one) as an expression of support for the government, long after it had become clear to everyone that the government wasn’t serving the workers any more, if it ever truly had been. Similarly, the rules-based international order is a noble idea that everyone still voices commitment to, though everyone has known for a while that it has nothing to do with what the imperial USA and its vassal states really do.
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Actually, what Carney aid was ‘Time for the rest of the world to start making the rules, not America.’
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joined 15 hours ago and just to shit on this
This is what having no arguments sounds like.
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