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Discord keeps walking into rakes, but TeamSpeak is thriving after 'incredible surge of new users'

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  • H holytimes@sh.itjust.works

    Just use fluxer. It literally does all that. It’s basically feature parity with discord.

    Other then waiting on them to finish up the native mobile app.

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    postimo@lemmy.zip
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    I assume they have a web client, how does that do on mobile?

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    • P postimo@lemmy.zip

      I have seen the conversation around ditching discord come up a few times, but this more recent one was the first time seeing Movim and it seems to have more folks post about it. Is it newer then revolt, rocket, etc?

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      ProdigalFrog
      wrote on last edited by prodigalfrog@slrpnk.net
      #130

      Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.

      Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.

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      • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

        Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.

        Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.

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        postimo@lemmy.zip
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        #131

        That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!

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        • P postimo@lemmy.zip

          That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!

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          ProdigalFrog
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          #132

          No prob 😄

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          • paequ2@lemmy.todayP paequ2@lemmy.today

            One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:

            Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”. It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.

            • https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/

            They have a CLA on contributions. So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.

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            ProdigalFrog
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            #133

            Hey, just wanted to give you an update that the Fluxer dev actually agreed to remove the CLA!

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            • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

              Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.

              Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.

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              relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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              Oh, good: Discord's age verification rollout has ties to Palantir co-founder and panopticon architect Peter Thiel - Lemmy.ca

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              • R ricaz@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                True, Mumble does have text-to-speech, but no Microsoft Sam in a roflcopter that goes soisoisoisoisoisoi

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                guyincognito@lemmy.ca
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                #135

                I’ll never forgive Bill Gates for getting rid of Microsoft Sam. Now to take a biiig sip of coffee and look at what he’s been up to since then

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                • ProdigalFrogP ProdigalFrog

                  Hey, just wanted to give you an update that the Fluxer dev actually agreed to remove the CLA!

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                  paequ2@lemmy.today
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                  Holy fuck! Noice!!!

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                  • D dev_null@lemmy.ml

                    That’s the thing, for me Discord replaced Slack. I never used the voice chat feature of Discord. I had family, friend group, interest group Slack servers to chat, all was eventually moved to Discord.

                    Meanwhile I still use Mumble for voice chat, Discord never replaced Mumble for me, it was a replacement for chat groups, which I previously used Slack for.

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                    screaminoctopus@sh.itjust.works
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                    That’s interesting since you were already using slack, did you just switch due to network effect or are there additional features in discord?

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                    • S screaminoctopus@sh.itjust.works

                      That’s interesting since you were already using slack, did you just switch due to network effect or are there additional features in discord?

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                      dev_null@lemmy.ml
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                      #138

                      I started using Discord because I was joining communities that were on Discord, and at some point I no longer wanted to use two similar chat apps, so it was simpler to only use Discord.

                      Discord did have one big advantage over Slack though, in that you can switch between servers within 1 browser tab easily. Slack servers are completely separated and if you are on 4, you realistically need to keep 4 Slack browser tabs open.

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                        postimo@lemmy.zip
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                        #139

                        You come off very unbecoming in that thread. Strange you advertise it.

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                        • P postimo@lemmy.zip

                          You come off very unbecoming in that thread. Strange you advertise it.

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                          relativityranger@lemmy.ca
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                          #140

                          I’m technically correct, and at least I’m not spreading disinformation 😘

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                          • W washedupcynic@lemmy.ca

                            For me, it wasn’t about the AI. It’s that early development of the game was all PvE play. PVP was something that was added at launch, and the game is tagged as PvE, along with PvP on steam. Stupid me thought there would be PvE only lobbies and I was clearly mistaken. I tried playing it, I put 100 hours in. The entire game was me grinding the easy map, to level up and craft/buy better guns, only to be shot on sight by someone and have everything I worked for taken. I would solo down bastions, leapers, and bombdiers to have someone run up and shoot me on site, without asking if I would share loot. (I would rather share than lose everything.) Events in the game also reward PvP play by awarding cred. People are making smurf accounts so they can end up in friendly matches to dominate people that don’t want to pvp. Enemy spawns are fucked up too. I’ve downed arc only for the corpses to despawn as I attempt to loot it. I’ve walked into clear areas, only to have bombadiers spawn on top of me out of nowhere. The worst part of the game is being dropped into a map/match after 10 minutes has elapsed, which means anything decent has already been looted and you’re more likely to run into people camping extraction points. They have a temp event running that rewards PvE cooperative play, and I’ve still gotten killed on site, although less frequently. After the event is over, I’ll probably uninstall the game again.

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                            borari
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                            Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

                            I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

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                              stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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                              • borariB borari

                                Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

                                I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

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                                washedupcynic@lemmy.ca
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                                The stuff I read about the play testing indicated it was PVE. I didn’t do enough research before purchasing, no argument there. I happen to actually enjoy fighting the arc, and I really enjoy when I can play co-operatively, and do things like save someone that’s pinned down by ARC, or help others down bastions, bombadiers, and matriarchs. Getting shot in the back after I’m soloing arc and my shield is down isn’t fun. Getting shot even after I say I’m friendly, and I can’t defend myself, or else trigger the algorithm to put me in more pvp matchups isn’t fun. If it was already tested as a PvE game, I don’t see why they can’t give us PVE and PVP lobbies. Letting players decide if they want to risk PVP or not.

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                                • ClownFiestaR ClownFiesta

                                  stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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                                  Fluxer.app seems just slightly better.

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                                  • qweertz (they/she)Q qweertz (they/she)

                                    XMPP is an insecure mess, even if you try to bolt on the weird encryption layer

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                                    poVoq
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                                    That is a non-sense comment. Where do you even get that from? And the “weird” encryption layer is literally the Signal library.

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                                    • ClownFiestaR ClownFiesta

                                      stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

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                                      anticurrent@sh.itjust.works
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                                      UK based, soon to implement identity verification, unfederated

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                                      • Jerkface (any/all)J Jerkface (any/all)

                                        why go from one corporate property to another when enshitification is the problem and libre options are available??

                                        tomorrow’s headline: “Teamspeak CEO excited to be working with Discord”

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                                        quips@slrpnk.net
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                                        #147

                                        Matrix has the best architecture by far. The only feature it lacks is high fps screenshare with audio. Right now its only acceptable for like a powerpoint presentation.

                                        When the update fixing that comes it will finally be ready to fully replace discord.

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                                        • E evotech@lemmy.world

                                          Teamspeak is not a good replacement lol

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                                          yeehaw
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                                          it’s what other people used to be familiar with though, so that’s probably why. also - can’t you download and host your own teamspeak server? I haven’t used it in so long I can’t remember how it works haha

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