I said that the other day and I got back “noone is going to use that windows XP lookin shit.”

XMPP can actually do everything, chat, group video calls, and even screen sharing with the Movim client. It’s a one-stop shop.

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Just use fluxer. It literally does all that. It’s basically feature parity with discord.

Other then waiting on them to finish up the native mobile app.

I have seen the conversation around ditching discord come up a few times, but this more recent one was the first time seeing Movim and it seems to have more folks post about it. Is it newer then revolt, rocket, etc?

Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.

Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.

That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!

One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:

Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesn’t create a separate “enterprise edition”. It’s still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.

• https://blog.fluxer.app/how-i-built-fluxer-a-discord-like-chat-app/

They have a CLA on contributions. So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.

Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.

Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.

True, Mumble does have text-to-speech, but no Microsoft Sam in a roflcopter that goes soisoisoisoisoisoi

Hey, just wanted to give you an update that the Fluxer dev actually agreed to remove the CLA!

That’s the thing, for me Discord replaced Slack. I never used the voice chat feature of Discord. I had family, friend group, interest group Slack servers to chat, all was eventually moved to Discord.

Meanwhile I still use Mumble for voice chat, Discord never replaced Mumble for me, it was a replacement for chat groups, which I previously used Slack for.

That’s interesting since you were already using slack, did you just switch due to network effect or are there additional features in discord?

You come off very unbecoming in that thread. Strange you advertise it.

For me, it wasn’t about the AI. It’s that early development of the game was all PvE play. PVP was something that was added at launch, and the game is tagged as PvE, along with PvP on steam. Stupid me thought there would be PvE only lobbies and I was clearly mistaken. I tried playing it, I put 100 hours in. The entire game was me grinding the easy map, to level up and craft/buy better guns, only to be shot on sight by someone and have everything I worked for taken. I would solo down bastions, leapers, and bombdiers to have someone run up and shoot me on site, without asking if I would share loot. (I would rather share than lose everything.) Events in the game also reward PvP play by awarding cred. People are making smurf accounts so they can end up in friendly matches to dominate people that don’t want to pvp. Enemy spawns are fucked up too. I’ve downed arc only for the corpses to despawn as I attempt to loot it. I’ve walked into clear areas, only to have bombadiers spawn on top of me out of nowhere. The worst part of the game is being dropped into a map/match after 10 minutes has elapsed, which means anything decent has already been looted and you’re more likely to run into people camping extraction points. They have a temp event running that rewards PvE cooperative play, and I’ve still gotten killed on site, although less frequently. After the event is over, I’ll probably uninstall the game again.

Not trying to change your mind because if you don’t like it you don’t like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.

I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they weren’t forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didn’t renege on any promise or anything.

stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.

XMPP is an insecure mess, even if you try to bolt on the weird encryption layer

stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.