Discord keeps walking into rakes, but TeamSpeak is thriving after 'incredible surge of new users'
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I have seen the conversation around ditching discord come up a few times, but this more recent one was the first time seeing Movim and it seems to have more folks post about it. Is it newer then revolt, rocket, etc?
Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.
Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.
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Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.
Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.
That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!
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That makes sense. Thanks for the heads up!
No prob
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One thing that worries me a little about fluxer is this:
Finally, we can offer commercial licences to companies that want to run Fluxer internally without being bound by the AGPLv3 copyleft terms. This is enabled via a contributor-friendly CLA, but it doesnāt create a separate āenterprise editionā. Itās still the same Fluxer software everyone else uses.
They have a CLA on contributions. So while today Fluxer is licensed as AGPLv3, tomorrow they can pull the rug and change the license, just like everyone else has been doing.
Hey, just wanted to give you an update that the Fluxer dev actually agreed to remove the CLA!
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Older, actually. Its been around since 2010, and is built upon the XMPP protocol, which is from 1999.
Movim has only recently taken the direction of becoming a Discord replacement.
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True, Mumble does have text-to-speech, but no Microsoft Sam in a roflcopter that goes soisoisoisoisoisoi
Iāll never forgive Bill Gates for getting rid of Microsoft Sam. Now to take a biiig sip of coffee and look at what heās been up to since then
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Hey, just wanted to give you an update that the Fluxer dev actually agreed to remove the CLA!
Holy fuck! Noice!!!
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Thatās the thing, for me Discord replaced Slack. I never used the voice chat feature of Discord. I had family, friend group, interest group Slack servers to chat, all was eventually moved to Discord.
Meanwhile I still use Mumble for voice chat, Discord never replaced Mumble for me, it was a replacement for chat groups, which I previously used Slack for.
Thatās interesting since you were already using slack, did you just switch due to network effect or are there additional features in discord?
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Thatās interesting since you were already using slack, did you just switch due to network effect or are there additional features in discord?
I started using Discord because I was joining communities that were on Discord, and at some point I no longer wanted to use two similar chat apps, so it was simpler to only use Discord.
Discord did have one big advantage over Slack though, in that you can switch between servers within 1 browser tab easily. Slack servers are completely separated and if you are on 4, you realistically need to keep 4 Slack browser tabs open.
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You come off very unbecoming in that thread. Strange you advertise it.
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You come off very unbecoming in that thread. Strange you advertise it.
Iām technically correct, and at least Iām not spreading disinformation
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For me, it wasnāt about the AI. Itās that early development of the game was all PvE play. PVP was something that was added at launch, and the game is tagged as PvE, along with PvP on steam. Stupid me thought there would be PvE only lobbies and I was clearly mistaken. I tried playing it, I put 100 hours in. The entire game was me grinding the easy map, to level up and craft/buy better guns, only to be shot on sight by someone and have everything I worked for taken. I would solo down bastions, leapers, and bombdiers to have someone run up and shoot me on site, without asking if I would share loot. (I would rather share than lose everything.) Events in the game also reward PvP play by awarding cred. People are making smurf accounts so they can end up in friendly matches to dominate people that donāt want to pvp. Enemy spawns are fucked up too. Iāve downed arc only for the corpses to despawn as I attempt to loot it. Iāve walked into clear areas, only to have bombadiers spawn on top of me out of nowhere. The worst part of the game is being dropped into a map/match after 10 minutes has elapsed, which means anything decent has already been looted and youāre more likely to run into people camping extraction points. They have a temp event running that rewards PvE cooperative play, and Iāve still gotten killed on site, although less frequently. After the event is over, Iāll probably uninstall the game again.
Not trying to change your mind because if you donāt like it you donāt like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.
I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they werenāt forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didnāt renege on any promise or anything.
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stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.
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Not trying to change your mind because if you donāt like it you donāt like it, but the fame was developed and play tested as a PvE game. It was slated for release before The Finals. The playtesting revealed that the game was just not fun. The developers, the play testers, everyone involved felt it was boring. They delayed the game and created what was released.
I understand not personally enjoying what was released, but Embark made a decision to change the gameplay during development on their own, they werenāt forced to by a publisher or anything, and they didnāt renege on any promise or anything.
The stuff I read about the play testing indicated it was PVE. I didnāt do enough research before purchasing, no argument there. I happen to actually enjoy fighting the arc, and I really enjoy when I can play co-operatively, and do things like save someone thatās pinned down by ARC, or help others down bastions, bombadiers, and matriarchs. Getting shot in the back after Iām soloing arc and my shield is down isnāt fun. Getting shot even after I say Iām friendly, and I canāt defend myself, or else trigger the algorithm to put me in more pvp matchups isnāt fun. If it was already tested as a PvE game, I donāt see why they canāt give us PVE and PVP lobbies. Letting players decide if they want to risk PVP or not.
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stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.
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XMPP is an insecure mess, even if you try to bolt on the weird encryption layer
That is a non-sense comment. Where do you even get that from? And the āweirdā encryption layer is literally the Signal library.
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stoat.chat seems like a good alternative.
UK based, soon to implement identity verification, unfederated
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why go from one corporate property to another when enshitification is the problem and libre options are available??
tomorrowās headline: āTeamspeak CEO excited to be working with Discordā
Matrix has the best architecture by far. The only feature it lacks is high fps screenshare with audio. Right now its only acceptable for like a powerpoint presentation.
When the update fixing that comes it will finally be ready to fully replace discord.
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Teamspeak is not a good replacement lol
itās what other people used to be familiar with though, so thatās probably why. also - canāt you download and host your own teamspeak server? I havenāt used it in so long I canāt remember how it works haha
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Matrix is actively user hostile. Itās no fun to use at all.
Iāve found it is clunky and bloated myself, but itās slim pickins trying to cover everything users expect. Hopefully one of these add-ons makes it lessā¦ rough.
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