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This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

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  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

    @prefec2 how did CDU argue that Trump could be right?

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    @randahl @prefec2 Spahn basically says that Europe is depending on the US and that NATO may not be able to defend Greenland. We shouldn't jeopardize our relationship.
    Spahn is becoming more and more radicalized. He's a german MAGA disciple. Hopefully Merz will sack him soon, there are rumors. But when he does, he won't do it out of conviction and more out of necessity. There are more and more critics in the CDU.

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    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

      This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

      The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

      Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

      Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

      Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

      Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

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      #12

      @randahl What I would like to know is when are the people in the US going to stand up to Donald Trump? How long will those who are afraid to speak out keep quiet? How much damage does he have to do before reasonable people in the US say, "enough"?

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      • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

        @prefec2 how did CDU argue that Trump could be right?

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        @randahl @prefec2
        I really hope, that this is not the position of the whole party.

        He is an opportunistic (and very probable corrupt) right winger, unluckily only one of many who currently swim on top of our conservative party. And if I remember correctly he is one who met and befriended the US project 2025 scums in autumn 2024.

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        • WernerW Werner

          @randahl @prefec2
          I really hope, that this is not the position of the whole party.

          He is an opportunistic (and very probable corrupt) right winger, unluckily only one of many who currently swim on top of our conservative party. And if I remember correctly he is one who met and befriended the US project 2025 scums in autumn 2024.

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          @wvs @randahl my assumption is that Spahn is very right wing populist and he is friends with Peter Thiel and follows his thinkings. He is also corrupt. For example, during Corona, he ordered masks for millions of Euro without using the proper channels and profiteers of this were people directly linked to him. They had just founded a company to sell masks. Thus, they had zero experience in the business at all.

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          • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

            This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

            The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

            Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

            Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

            Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

            Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

            ๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @randahl it is time to spread this idea: can we please give @pluralistic suggestion of repealing anti-circumvention (DMCA equivalents) across Europe and the world a go? No more wall gardens.

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            • PG19582๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธP PG19582๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ธ

              @randahl I agree with EU leadership turning away from the US, trump is not to be trusted ever!

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              @PG19582 @randahl That's the thing: It's not "Trump can't be trusted" it's "America can't be trusted".

              All it takes is one election and off they go bouncing happily towards this fucking mess again, and that's assuming the replacement even bothers to improve things rather than maintain as the new norm.

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              • Reiner Jung ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บP Reiner Jung ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ฑ ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ

                @wvs @randahl my assumption is that Spahn is very right wing populist and he is friends with Peter Thiel and follows his thinkings. He is also corrupt. For example, during Corona, he ordered masks for millions of Euro without using the proper channels and profiteers of this were people directly linked to him. They had just founded a company to sell masks. Thus, they had zero experience in the business at all.

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                @wvs @randahl He also bought a villa in Berlin during his time as minister for health in the last Merkel cabinet, which was way above his pay grade and got allegedly support for the purchase from third parties.

                There are more such stories, but they all fit perfectly into the way things are done around Trump. And yes, he was ok with Project 2025. Thus, he is a dangerous guy, esp. as he has no scruples at all.

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                • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                  This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

                  The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

                  Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

                  Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

                  Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

                  Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

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                  @randahl

                  The Manchurian candidate did it againโ€ฆ it is the death struggle of an empire we are witnessing it seems. Self inflicted damageโ€ฆ incomprehensibleโ€ฆ

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                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                    This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

                    The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

                    Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

                    Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

                    Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

                    Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

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                    @randahl
                    He really lost any touch with reality, because he fire anyone saying anything against him.

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                    • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                      This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

                      The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

                      Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

                      Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

                      Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

                      Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

                      โ„ฆ ๐ŸŒ Gus PoseyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @randahl It would be easier to understand their moral superiority were they not all using Grok for translation.

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                      • ๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐB ๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐ

                        @randahl it is time to spread this idea: can we please give @pluralistic suggestion of repealing anti-circumvention (DMCA equivalents) across Europe and the world a go? No more wall gardens.

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                        @bicycletting @randahl came here to say this.

                        If ever it was time to do this, itโ€™s now

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                        • Indy Richard ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟI Indy Richard ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ

                          @randahl What I would like to know is when are the people in the US going to stand up to Donald Trump? How long will those who are afraid to speak out keep quiet? How much damage does he have to do before reasonable people in the US say, "enough"?

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                          @IndyRichard @randahl Reasonable people in the US are already saying โ€œenough.โ€ The key people that are not are Republican Senators and Representatives. Some of them are not reasonable people and are totally deluded. Theyโ€™ve drunk the Cool-Aid. Many of them are reasonable people but they are afraid to oppose Trump because they and their families will become the targets of violence.

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                            @randahl it is time to spread this idea: can we please give @pluralistic suggestion of repealing anti-circumvention (DMCA equivalents) across Europe and the world a go? No more wall gardens.

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                            @bicycletting @randahl

                            I wish I could boost your reply more than once.

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                            • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                              This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

                              The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

                              Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

                              Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

                              Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

                              Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

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                              @randahl

                              What are the anti-coercion instruments?

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                              • BodhipaksaB Bodhipaksa

                                @IndyRichard @randahl Reasonable people in the US are already saying โ€œenough.โ€ The key people that are not are Republican Senators and Representatives. Some of them are not reasonable people and are totally deluded. Theyโ€™ve drunk the Cool-Aid. Many of them are reasonable people but they are afraid to oppose Trump because they and their families will become the targets of violence.

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                                @bodhipaksa @bodhipaksa & this is all too real: opponents have been targeted and killed, &/or threatened. Personally I don't think Tim Walz withdraw from the re-election to better concentrate on his today's tasks/or MTG had an epiphany & became a saint & withdraw. The terror is real, an instrument used casually by this gov. There is no healthy come back, except a total reset. This is what Steve Bannon fears - and this could become real too. I hope it will. @IndyRichard @randahl

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                                • ๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐB ๐”…icyclet๐“ฝ๐“ฒ๐“ท๐“ฐ

                                  @randahl it is time to spread this idea: can we please give @pluralistic suggestion of repealing anti-circumvention (DMCA equivalents) across Europe and the world a go? No more wall gardens.

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                                  @bicycletting @randahl avec la tendance en Europe de briser la possibilitรฉ d'anonymat sur le net, je ne pense pas qu'une aversion Trumpienne ne change grand chose aux politiques concernant les moyens de protection technique (TPM). Les dirigeants EU et UK virent eux aussi facho, c'est juste que Trump les a out-fascisรฉs plus vite, dรฉpassรฉs par la droite.

                                  https://www.laquadrature.net/2025/10/03/chat-control-on-fait-le-point/

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                                  • Randahl FinkR Randahl Fink

                                    This was the weekend Trump destroyed US exports.

                                    The left side of the EU Parliament was already against adopting the EU-US trade deal but did not have the majority.

                                    Now the deal is dead, as more parties outside the left are furious because of Trump's revenge tariffs towards countries protecting Greenland.

                                    Picture 1: President of The Progressives turns against Trump.

                                    Picture 2-3: President of Renew Europe turns against Trump.

                                    Picture 4: Chairman of the Trade Committee turns against Trump.

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                                    @randahl
                                    ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italian Prime minister Meloni said it has been just a misunderstanding, that this side of the Atlantic (Europe) sent an unclear message.

                                    She has already talked with Trump and she will soon talk with the other European leaders.

                                    #Meloni #Italy #Greenland #GiorgiaMeloni

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                                      @randahl
                                      ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡น Italian Prime minister Meloni said it has been just a misunderstanding, that this side of the Atlantic (Europe) sent an unclear message.

                                      She has already talked with Trump and she will soon talk with the other European leaders.

                                      #Meloni #Italy #Greenland #GiorgiaMeloni

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                                      @elCelio @randahl
                                      Tuttapposto, then ๐Ÿ™‚

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                                      • Michel PatriceM Michel Patrice

                                        @randahl

                                        What are the anti-coercion instruments?

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                                        @MichelPatrice @randahl

                                        they go from simple tariffs, to removing intellectual property rights or managing foreign investments coming from the hostile country.

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                                        • QuincyQ Quincy

                                          @randahl

                                          [insert 4D chess text meme here] /s

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                                          @quincy @randahl *slams dick in car door* masterful gambit, sir

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