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#Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state.

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  • Simon WaldmanS Simon Waldman

    @alice ....and yet European countries still (so far as I understand it) refuse asylum claims on the basis that "The USA is a Safe Country".

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    @swaldman @alice

    Personally, I would recommend Americans who need to escape to Europe to move there via a student visa. Those are much easier to get, and you will have a much better status - you can get part-time jobs with them.

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    • calcius@hol.ogra.phC calcius@hol.ogra.ph

      @Fettlaus@social.tchncs.de @alice@lgbtqia.space
      the genitals are a pretext - it's about a marginalised group that they think can't defend itself or have others step in to defend them.

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      @calcius @alice @Fettlaus Good luck everyone.

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      • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

        #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

        The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

        Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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        Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

        "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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        Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

        The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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        #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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        @alice

        WTF, this is a crock of shit. So, Lindsey Graham needs to be next?
        Those Kansas people are terminally stupid.

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        • Truth Or Consequences ✅   🇺🇦S Truth Or Consequences ✅ 🇺🇦

          @alice

          WTF, this is a crock of shit. So, Lindsey Graham needs to be next?
          Those Kansas people are terminally stupid.

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          @Savvyhomestead No, the American system protects people of means who are well connected to the in-group. Miss Nancy is going to be okay, despite selling his soul a decade ago. He'll die in disgrace and be remembered as a gutless traitor, but he won't suffer for his moral crimes before he dies.

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          • Alexander Goeres 𒀯J Alexander Goeres 𒀯
            @🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄) what is the offcial connection between being trans and being able to drive a car??
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            @jabgoe2089 In this case, it's about the general human obsession with social gender, which the Western world has equated to biological sex for several centuries now. As gender is neurological, it cannot be tested at birth, so your Sex Assigned At Birth is based entirely on (limited) biological evidence. Many people, such as the weirdo Xtians who run Kansas, believe that sex and gender are the same thing, so what a doctor saw twixt your nethers at birth is Who and What You Are, no backsies.

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            • markA mark

              @alice I will gladly pay a $1000 f8ne for someone if I can get the address of the plaintiff to hand deliver the check. 😜

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              @ATLeagle Unfortunately, it's worse than that. You can also do time under this rule. And this can escalate fast, because 1st ofc = 90 days suspension, and how will you get around in that time? Violate that, and you face more serious consequences.

              Kansas gave people almost no warning about this, and will impose real penalties starting TODAY.

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              • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                @alice because the gender marker on my drivers license is the important part showing im a competent machine operator :<

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                • CaliCarolJ CaliCarol

                  @alice

                  As a journalist once titled a book: "What's the matter with Kansas?"

                  Our red states brethren are sick puppies.

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                  @jawarajabbi @alice
                  They still haven’t gotten all the corners of Brownback stench out. The governor vetoed this, but too many people there still vote for the Republican scum legislators who created this. The Koch(s) have big influence in Kansas.

                  Two of my company’s big yearly meetings are in Kansas. I’ve refused to go for over 10 years.

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                  • Simon WaldmanS Simon Waldman

                    @alice ....and yet European countries still (so far as I understand it) refuse asylum claims on the basis that "The USA is a Safe Country".

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                    @swaldman @alice This would only list Kansas as unsafe. You'd have to run out of all "safe" states before they'd start accepting asylum claims from trans USians with a chance of success. Atm even Palestine or Syria aren't places where you can get guaranteed successful asylum claims (glances at Syrian refugees currently being sent back to unsafe situations).
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                    • starfrostS starfrost

                      @alice This is the end of society.

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                      @starfrost Well, in Kansas, maybe. We'll see how far it goes. But Kansas already has a very long track record of this kind of BS. My advice to anyone there, even 10 years ago, would be to just leave if you can. Kansas doesn't seem likely to get better any time soon, and there are better places to live.

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                      • G gerdek

                        @alice Republican I presume? Really, the most disgusting people in the world. Poor USA or for the republicans NSA (Nazi.....). Dear Lord, sent them with a one way ticket to hell.

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                        @gerdek

                        Democratic governor with far-right legislators in both houses. She vetoed the bill and they overrode it.

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                        • retrimentalR retrimental

                          @alice

                          Oh, a trans tax.

                          Years ago I'd laugh at this as a somewhat conservative guy but I try to be better.

                          If I see a lifestyle choice I don't agree with, I always ask myself if I'm willing to disown my future kid for the same choice. If I'm not willing to disown and cut ties, then I think it's fair that the choice be left alone.

                          Imagine implementing a Christian tax, or straight tax, or <insert totally normal thing> tax.

                          You get the point.

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                          @retrimental I'm not sure how you're getting 'tax' out of this. Forfeiture (the legal term for payment of a fine) is the very least of the potential consequences here. 1st offence is also 90 days suspension, and if you violate that it's minimum 5 days in jail. They can also jail you for this at any level. A 'tax' would be quaint next to that.

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                          • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                            #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                            The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                            Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                            Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                            "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                            Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                            The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                            #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                            @alice wait a minute, let me get this straight, the Pedophiles are at war with queer folx? It legal to sexually abuse children but illegal to drive a car based on a deviation from birth gender.

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                            • Simon WaldmanS Simon Waldman

                              @alice ....and yet European countries still (so far as I understand it) refuse asylum claims on the basis that "The USA is a Safe Country".

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                              @swaldman Yeah, that's a real problem. And you'd expect Western European countries, if any, to be alert to this. I, too, wonder how much longer it will take for them to come around. I think most of them have are waiting for each other to make the first move.

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                              • Henrik PauliP Henrik Pauli

                                @swaldman @alice I honestly don't get why we still list the US as "safe to travel" in the travel advisories either.

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                                @phl Outdated info, maybe. Most public guides are based on info from no less than 1-2 years old. 2 years ago, I would have agreed. Today, I'm repeatedly telling people to stay away from here, and if they're here to get out if they can.

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                                • 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴  (🌈🦄)A 🅰🅻🅸🅲🅴 (🌈🦄)

                                  #Trans folx in #Kansas given 1 day to surrender their (now invalid) IDs and driver's licenses to the state. As of tomorrow (Thursday), driving while trans is a class-B misdemeanor ($1000 fine and up to 6 months in jail).

                                  The zero-grace-period execution means driving to turn in your license is a crime.

                                  Oh yeah, this bill also enacted a bathroom bounty program allowing private individuals to sue trans folx for using the restroom.

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                                  Kansas Sends Letters To Trans People Demanding The Immediate Surrender Of Drivers Licenses

                                  "The legislature did not include a grace period."

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                                  Kansas Advancing Anti-Trans Bill Allowing Bounty Hunters To Patrol Private Business Bathrooms

                                  The bill, which is racing through the Kansas legislature, stands a significant chance of passing the Senate.

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                                  #AntiTrans #Authoritarianism #FuckTrump #FuckRepublicans #ProtectTransFolx

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                                  @alice

                                  Kan-cis transphobes can go fuck themselves. This is such anti-human bullshit.

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                                  • 🇨🇦️ badhairdayW 🇨🇦️ badhairday

                                    @peterbrown

                                    True enough.

                                    I can imagine that some people's licenses may be coming up for renewal, and they want to wait for that to happen before getting a new license. If it's more than a year before renewal, I suppose they could get the license changed and renewed at the same time, paying a pro-rated amount to cover whatever time is left on the current license, plus the cost for the new one. 🤷‍♂️

                                    Just an idea.

                                    @alice

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                                    @weirdone @peterbrown @alice
                                    Their licenses were invalidated today with no grace period. Any trans person with a KS license who drives today who has changed their gender on their license to their real gender would be driving illegally. They’re being forced to change it back to their ASAB and being given no time to do so, in order to inflict as much pain as possible. The Kansas legislature is filled with evil people.

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                                    • yelling jackalL yelling jackal
                                      @swaldman @alice This would only list Kansas as unsafe. You'd have to run out of all "safe" states before they'd start accepting asylum claims from trans USians with a chance of success. Atm even Palestine or Syria aren't places where you can get guaranteed successful asylum claims (glances at Syrian refugees currently being sent back to unsafe situations).
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                                      @len Right, though I'll add a very critical caveat. If you live in the US, there are comparatively safer or less safe states. But you cannot enter ANY part of the US without interacting with the same people who gunned down two of our own citizens in Minnesota. And they've already bagged a lot of visitors, and will continue to, often on little or no pretext.

                                      DON'T COME TO THE US. It is not safe to enter our country. Stay away. For your own safety.

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                                      • Peter BrownP Peter Brown

                                        @weirdone @alice I can’t understand how this will work because in eg. a traffic stop the cop will see a completely different person to that in the ID. Surely the whole purpose of ID is to prove you are who you say you are and if your ID says you’re a man and you look like a woman (or vice versa), it no longer serves any practical purpose. If you are a trans man or a trans woman, then your ID should reflect that, otherwise it’s completely useless.

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                                        @peterbrown Right. But that's not its purpose. Its purpose is to shame and humiliate trans people and discourage them from being themselves anytime they're not in the privacy of their home. It's also meant to discourage voting by people they don't like.

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                                        • WesDymW WesDym

                                          @len Right, though I'll add a very critical caveat. If you live in the US, there are comparatively safer or less safe states. But you cannot enter ANY part of the US without interacting with the same people who gunned down two of our own citizens in Minnesota. And they've already bagged a lot of visitors, and will continue to, often on little or no pretext.

                                          DON'T COME TO THE US. It is not safe to enter our country. Stay away. For your own safety.

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                                          @wesdym I was very specifically speaking about asylum claims from the US to the EU, /not/ about travel advisories to the US.
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