I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
-
Creating a successful Facebook replacement has little to do with underlying technology or university education system. Success depends far more on access to deep, liquid capital markets and a large domestic market that can serve as a launching pad for international growth.
@kongakong @anttipeltola The point is that institutions don't need a facebook replacement to be built. Personally I don't see why a simple website isn't enough, but people seem to be less and less able to even create those.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola It makes me so sad to see this is true elsewhere... I truly thought it was a local problem for us
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola There are lots of organizations and businesses that have a website, but refuse to use it:
> For opening hours, please see our instagram
You're lucky to find the address on the web. Anything remotely useful will be locked on a platform where you can't even read it without making an account.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola my state government is doing this for everything. Handing ot over to contractors then claing ignorance on issues of medical licensure, license plate renewal, etc
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola Microsoft DreamsPark/Azure Tools for Teaching.
Let's put it this way: for past 15 years, life science graduates with pretty advanced degrees can't do a non-linear regression unless there is a specific 1000 EUR per year per user software package provided.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
Also Finland: ( seen in Turku ) a young man in his 20s ordering a coffee with his phone. He is sitting two meters from the counter.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola When I've read histories of computers and programming, I was surprised how often Finnish universities were mentioned.
This also sounds like what's happened with universities in the US. In the 90s, a lot of significant software was developed and supported by universities and government-funded research organizations. But universities ended up outsourcing their IT.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
#Finland B 4 NATO and Finland after
Linux before Trovalds became a millionaire and after ... he moved to FB-land
-
Also Finland: ( seen in Turku ) a young man in his 20s ordering a coffee with his phone. He is sitting two meters from the counter.
Well, one less social interaction for the customer, and less need for a dedicated cashier.
By local standards, this counts as a win-win.
-
@anttipeltola my state government is doing this for everything. Handing ot over to contractors then claing ignorance on issues of medical licensure, license plate renewal, etc
Yup. Over 500 boosts now. That's "going viral" for me.
-
@Mellivora @uint8_t @funambolo
The age-old Silicon Valley trick of freeloading on others' free labour and making huge profits out of enshittification while calling themselves "innovators".
@anttipeltola the world would crumble if all these oss devs went on strike and pushed out an update that broke their library or framework. @uint8_t @funambolo
-
@anttipeltola the world would crumble if all these oss devs went on strike and pushed out an update that broke their library or framework. @uint8_t @funambolo
@Mellivora @uint8_t @funambolo
Yes, this could be a reasonable anarchist solution for taking down the system without firing a shot.
-
@anttipeltola not just Finland. I'd say most of europe?
@anttipeltola @openfactory The point was, that Linux was literally released at the University of Helsinki. IRC was developed at the University of Oulu. The first version of ssh was developed at the Helsinki University of Technology. All rather ground breaking.
(Edit: Fixed "University of Helsinki" to "Helsinki University of Technology")
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola found it!
Tommi (@tommi@jontka.fi)
suomalaiset yliopistot 90-luvulla: kehitettiin tĂ€mmöne đ reaaliaikainen keskusteluohjelma đ sinne voi perustaa omia kanavia. Tietenkin se pyörii meidĂ€n palvelimella. Haluutko sen omalle palvelimelle? Otas tosta, ja sit hei! TĂ€ssĂ€ olis tĂ€mmöne kĂ€yttöjĂ€rjestelmĂ€ mikĂ€ tehtiin. Se on ilmainen ja paras.đ€đ suomalaiset yliopistot 2026: te ette vaan voi ymmĂ€rtÀÀ miten vaikea on siirtÀÀ meidĂ€n viestintĂ€ pois facebookista đ«©
Jontka (jontka.fi)
-
@anttipeltola @openfactory The point was, that Linux was literally released at the University of Helsinki. IRC was developed at the University of Oulu. The first version of ssh was developed at the Helsinki University of Technology. All rather ground breaking.
(Edit: Fixed "University of Helsinki" to "Helsinki University of Technology")
@anttipeltola @openfactory @pesasa wasn't ssh deveped while Ylönen was researcher at Helsinki University of Technology?
-
@anttipeltola @openfactory @pesasa wasn't ssh deveped while Ylönen was researcher at Helsinki University of Technology?
@anttipeltola @openfactory @poppis Yes exactly. My mistake.
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
I would think if any country could do it, Finland could
Finland already has the best open instance of #Friendica in English
govts could do like France & make all employees be off certain platforms that collect data
they could even subsidize an instance of an opensource friend app for citizens
reaching out individually to get a friend to switch platforms rarely works. We could set up a #meta mass exodus day
people will go where their friends & people go
-
@funambolo @anttipeltola âitâs not that simple! if it was so simple then why would they charge so much money for it??â
@funambolo @anttipeltola @uint8_t Its also that by paying them, they can blame them for any problems.
AWS and Microsoft are selling much more than cloud services - Bert Hubert's writings
Ten, twenty years ago customers over at large corporations would often ask me what hardware theyâd need to run my software. As software developers, weâd tend to be rather blasĂ© about such questions: âwhatever you have lying around!â. If pressed, weâd say youâd need this much RAM and that much storage. We thought we were doing our users a tremendous favor by being so flexible. Yet, customers were very much not happy with our responses.
Bert Hubert's writings (berthub.eu)
-
I saw this on a Finnish post, so let me reformulate it a bit and post it in English.
Finnish universities 1996:
"Here's an operating system we created for you. Here's a chat network we created you can use with the operating system."
Finnish universities 2026:
"We don't know how to replace Facebook for public communications."
Learned helplessness.
@anttipeltola But there's no connection between that and getting hoodwinked into NATO because the population is this dumb. -
T Tim_Eagon shared this topic
