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We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running.

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  • bnoB bno

    @briankrebs A LOT of things will have to change in the US if I'm to ever set my foot on that continent again.
    At this point I'm not even sure the US will ever be able to win back the trust of many Europeans

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    wrote last edited by
    #215

    @bno
    True, it's very unlikely I'll ever set foot in the USA. I'll still visit Mexico and South America though, as it's great for bikepacking.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

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      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

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      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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      wrote last edited by
      #216

      @briankrebs This will 100% tank 100% of the travel to the U.S. We need to impeach the fat orange fscist as fast as we can to prevent further damage. ANY U.S. house representative or senator also needs to be voted out in the midterms (if they are up for reelection) if they do not side with the will of the people to impeach. And anyone still in office needs to be censored for not voting to impeach.

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      • AnneHA AnneH

        @Giliell @briankrebs If you didn't consent I think it would be contrary to GDPR to give it.

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        #217

        @annehargreaves @briankrebs Yeah, but that's only good if it's being enforced.

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          @fl0und3r So...pass on #fashpass? I like yours better.

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          Flounder
          wrote last edited by
          #218

          @briankrebs I was just trying to paraphrase the 5th element. But also, if someone offers you something fash I feel like merely abstaining is too weak a response...

          Also, totally agree, *do not visit the US*

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          • wendinoakland :KINGPENG_PNG:W wendinoakland :KINGPENG_PNG:

            @lazyb0y @zm @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs They’re not, tho. They think they’re from some secret white center-of-the-earth thingy (deep, bizarre nazi stuff, apparently popular again) /s

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            Lazy B0y
            wrote last edited by
            #219

            @wendinoakland
            this and also none of their scientists will dare to admit it because they shoot the messenger

            @zm @Wyatt_H_Knott @briankrebs

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            • Randall LeeB Randall Lee

              @AAKL @briankrebs If the German football federation decides to either boycott the WC entirely or boycott matches in the US the rest of Europe will do the same. Mexico and Canada can handle the extra matches and tourists. FIFA can adjust quickly to cut the US out. The US matches will have low ranked teams playing in near empty stadiums.

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              Tim Finnerty
              wrote last edited by
              #220

              @BLTpizza @AAKL @briankrebs #FIFA ha ha ha! FIFA have found their perfect partner in the US administration

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Just say no to #fashpass

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                Mark Levison
                wrote last edited by
                #221

                @briankrebs my social media from the past 10 minutes would get me banned.

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                • Darwin WoodkaD Darwin Woodka

                  @TGG303 @briankrebs

                  As fast as he's devaluing the dollar, I don't think he understands money.

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                  Geekmoose
                  wrote last edited by
                  #222

                  @darwinwoodka @TGG303 @briankrebs you mean the guy that allowed 3 casinos to go bankrupt doesn’t understand money ? Shocked and stunned !

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                  • Mark LevisonM Mark Levison

                    @briankrebs my social media from the past 10 minutes would get me banned.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #223

                    @briankrebs we’re hoping that when you reboot your country the malware gets uninstalled. Good luck

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                      "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                      "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                      PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                      -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                      -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                      ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                      -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                      -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                      -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                      -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                      -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                      Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                      favicon

                      Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                      The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                      must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                      Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                      Noortje Van Leeuwen
                      wrote last edited by
                      #224

                      @briankrebs

                      ...must be a total coinkidink that they are hosting the biggest sports event in the world this year.

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                      • Negative12DollarBillN Negative12DollarBill

                        @briankrebs What would it even *mean* to submit five years of social media? Copy and paste every tweet/toot/post into a box on the application form?

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                        Thomas
                        wrote last edited by
                        #225

                        @negative12dollarbill simple - make all posts public and tell them the account name.

                        @briankrebs

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                          Link Preview Image
                          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                          favicon

                          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                          Tristan Colgate-McFarlane
                          wrote last edited by
                          #226

                          @briankrebs I've been to Cuba, Vietnam and Lao, all certified authoritarian police states where a seemingly innocent question could be met by pinched lips, shaking head and fearful eyes.
                          Not one asked for anything more than my passport
                          So, thanks, but no thanks. Good luck with that economy. You'll need it.

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                            "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                            "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                            PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                            -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                            -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                            ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                            -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                            -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                            -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                            -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                            -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                            Link Preview Image
                            The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                            Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                            favicon

                            Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                            The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                            must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                            Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                            @briankrebs

                            We have nothing to FEAR but fear itself.

                            From the home of the brave to the land of the fearful.

                            Put on your big boy trousers America and go forth boldly and do good.

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                            • Corb_The_LesserC Corb_The_Lesser

                              @briankrebs

                              If the Trump regime makes up an email address or a phone number or whatever as an excuse to bar entry to someone, how can that person reasonably be expected to prove the contrary?

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                              Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱
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                              #228

                              @Corb_The_Lesser @briankrebs Usually, no reasons are given for refusing a visa.

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                              • AAKLA AAKL

                                @BLTpizza @briankrebs That's right. The doofus who made this deal doesn't care about the implications: they are not his cross to bear. But what is the criteria that will be used? Who will be banned from entry? Who will be punished? Based on what? Gender? Immigration? Opinion? Are visitors seriously considering handing over their DNA and entire family, email, and social media history for a decade to the people who just murdered another civilian in cold blood?

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                                Colin McMillen
                                wrote last edited by
                                #229

                                @AAKL I'm sure a lot of apolitical, badly informed people would be ready to, sadly.
                                @BLTpizza @briankrebs

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                                • AAKLA AAKL

                                  @briankrebs FIFA's Word Cup tournaments in the U.S. need to be boycotted or cancelled. This puts the world at the mercy of these thugs.

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                                  @AAKL @briankrebs
                                  FIFA is a corrupt bunch anyways.
                                  So the Worldcup should be boycotted for this alone.

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                                  • David Scott MoyerF David Scott Moyer

                                    @faraiwe @briankrebs I changed it and got this:

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                                    #231

                                    @farbel @faraiwe @briankrebs Even with a valid email address DHS doesn't want to accept my feedback.

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                                    • Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)J Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)

                                      @AAKL @BLTpizza @briankrebs

                                      If the US doesn't want us to visit anymore, we won't visit. TV is nice for watching football.
                                      If the US doesn't want to buy from us, we won't buy from them. Sorry, not sorry, Amazon.
                                      It's that simple.

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                                      wrote last edited by
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                                      @jgg @BLTpizza @briankrebs Six days ago: US tourism sector faces $12.5 billion loss as visa restrictions expand https://www.traveldailymedia.com/us-tourism-sector-faces-12-5-billion-loss-as-visa-restrictions-expand/

                                      The World Cup will bring in an estimated $30 billion to rescue the U.S. economy. Something to think about.

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                                      • Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱P Pieter Kuiper 🌍🇳🇱

                                        @Corb_The_Lesser @briankrebs Usually, no reasons are given for refusing a visa.

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                                        #233

                                        @pietkuip @briankrebs Right, poorly phrased. But, easy to allege that someone who was admitted omitted required information.

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          We knew this was coming, but now the clock is running. From Privacy International:

                                          "Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP)."

                                          "If the proposed changes are adopted after the 60-day consultation, then millions of travellers to the U.S. will be forced to use a U.S. government mobile phone app, submit their social media from the last five years and email addresses used in the last ten years, including of family members. They’re also proposing the collection of DNA."

                                          PI linked to and summarized a Federal Register entry describing the proposed requirements:

                                          -All visitors must submit ‘their social media from the last 5 years’

                                          -ESTA (Electronic System for Travel Authorization) applications will include ‘high value data fields’, ‘when feasible’
                                          ‘telephone numbers used in the last five years’
                                          -‘email addresses used in the last ten years’
                                          -‘family number telephone numbers (sic) used in the last five years’
                                          -biometrics – face, fingerprint, DNA, and iris
                                          -business telephone numbers used in the last five years
                                          -business email addresses used in the last ten years.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          The Trump Administration wants your DNA and social media

                                          Yesterday the Trump Administration announced a proposed change in policy for travellers to the U.S. It applies to the powers of data collection by the Customs and Border Police (CBP).

                                          favicon

                                          Privacy International (www.privacyinternational.org)

                                          The Federal Register entry says comments are encouraged and
                                          must be submitted (no later than February 9, 2026) to be assured of consideration.

                                          Federal Register entry: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2025-12-10/pdf/2025-22461.pdf

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #234

                                          @briankrebs well, Qatar forced travelers to install their government issued app for COVID protection during the 2022 FIFA World cup... Qatar is not the USA, but perhaps that's where they got the idea...

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