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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

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  • SaraS Sara

    @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

    but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

    that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

    (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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    @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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    • BeldarakB Beldarak

      @sarae

      I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

      You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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      @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

      it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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      • Lisa 🦔M Lisa 🦔

        @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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        @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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        • Lee from ColoradoC Lee from Colorado

          @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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          #33

          @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

          and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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          • SaraS Sara

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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            @sarae 👍💯👍

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            • kimaprK kimapr

              Sara

              it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

              the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

              it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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              #35

              @kimapr oh interesting!

              and I think that for those of us who read "trending" on a Mastodon server (which I do sometimes if I've been afk all day and want to catch up on the "big ideas") favorites do influence visibility, but yeah, it's in a diffuse rather than a direct way

              (and see I boosted this because it's new-to-me information, lol)

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              • SaraS Sara

                @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                @sarae

                Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                • SaraS Sara

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                  #37

                  @sarae I see it as a way to tell the OP that I liked or otherwise appreciated the post, especially when I don't have a substantial reply to share!

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                  • SaraS Sara

                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                    @sarae I agree on almost every point except one: it *does* affect distribution, albeit in a small way, because faves are counted for the trending posts lists.

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                    • SaraS Sara

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                      #39

                      @sarae
                      Thank you to all that was said before.
                      same here.

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                      • BeldarakB Beldarak

                        @sarae

                        Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                        #40

                        @Beldarak there are some people who I def like talking with but most of their feeds are stuff I find sometimes-really-upsetting and need to pace myself on

                        it's nothing personal and it's not like they're "doing it wrong" they're just doing it in a way that doesn't always work for me personally

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                        • Max LeibmanM Max Leibman

                          @sarae I agree on almost every point except one: it *does* affect distribution, albeit in a small way, because faves are counted for the trending posts lists.

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                          @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                          • Sheru (she/her)M Sheru (she/her)

                            @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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                            @MsHearthWitch @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa The Like/Favourite buttons doesn't only mean "I like this post," no matter what some people claim. It can be:

                            - I see you
                            - Support
                            - I agree with what you wrote
                            - Etc

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                            • SaraS Sara

                              @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                              #43

                              @sarae Appreciate you spreading the good word, either way.

                              As I once put it: saying “faves don’t do anything” is like saying “please and thank you don’t do anything.”

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                              • SaraS Sara

                                @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                                @sarae @maxleibman I am probably weird but I don't look at those

                                but you're still right because if other people do then they might boost because they saw it .. at which point someone weird like me sees it anyway

                                and probably boosts it 😅

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                                • SaraS Sara

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                  @sarae get favourited friend lol

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                                  • ꓤ uɐᗡ :verified_hellion:D ꓤ uɐᗡ :verified_hellion:

                                    @sarae @maxleibman I am probably weird but I don't look at those

                                    but you're still right because if other people do then they might boost because they saw it .. at which point someone weird like me sees it anyway

                                    and probably boosts it 😅

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                                    @dannotdaniel @sarae I am a narcissist because I only ever look at them to see if I’m in them. 🤣

                                    But more seriously, in many clients they are visible on the search screen, so I think they do have an impact even for people who aren’t watching.

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                                    • Max LeibmanM Max Leibman

                                      @dannotdaniel @sarae I am a narcissist because I only ever look at them to see if I’m in them. 🤣

                                      But more seriously, in many clients they are visible on the search screen, so I think they do have an impact even for people who aren’t watching.

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                                      @maxleibman @dannotdaniel I totally use that "Trending' feed as a "quick catch up" on days when I've been doing other stuff and want to get a sense of what's been happening

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                                      • SaraS Sara

                                        @blag oh I'm a big fan of boosting, obvs

                                        but I also kind of have an idea about "these are the topics I'm sharing news about" and when things are way outside that, it's good to have another tool in the box

                                        I use boosting more like I use sharing articles the the family group texts

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                                        @sarae PS. Should have put previous comment in context by saying that I tried for a few months to *only* boost and reply.

                                        This survey, and the replies, brought me back into the starring frame of mind:

                                        Sam at BLAG (@blag@typo.social)

                                        Should I start 'liking/starring' posts again? Context: I've tried to be more actively engaged here by forcing myself to only boost or reply but am now thinking about flexing my star button again. #AskFedi #Fediverse #Mastodon [ ] Yes [ ] No [ ] Other, hit reply

                                        favicon

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                                        • SaraS Sara

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                          @sarae
                                          To me, Saying "don't favorite posts" is like "don't say 'thank you' in real life"

                                          Sure, life works without as well, but come on.. A little appreciation doesn't cost a dime.

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