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Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent.

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  • Conny NaschC Conny Nasch

    @clintruin @theleftistlawyer there is quite a good article on this in https://newsnowuk.com/
    added to that a lot of squawking about impeachment is pointed out. Worth checking 🤔

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    @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
    Don't hold your breath.

    They only have to get around the Supreme Court of the United States.

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    • Conny NaschC Conny Nasch

      @clintruin @theleftistlawyer there is quite a good article on this in https://newsnowuk.com/
      added to that a lot of squawking about impeachment is pointed out. Worth checking 🤔

      Kid ManiaC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
      There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

      That is darkly hilarious.

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      • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

        Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

        JohnJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        RE: https://mastodon.social/@theleftistlawyer/115860129619014301

        @theleftistlawyer

        Why gentle?

        Our media and political class seem intent ensuring that the mere suspicion of criminality or the existence of a criminal record are de facto justification for arrest without warrants, denying due process, and even summary execution by govt forces.

        This idea is literally monstrous, antisocial, and tyrannical, much like the police impunity it works to protect.

        Instead of being gentle, slap the living fuck out of people until they think correctly about it.

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        • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

          Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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          @theleftistlawyer Law enforcement's job is to bring people in, not take them out.

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          • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

            Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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            @theleftistlawyer

            Vecna was innocent!

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            • SvenD Sven

              @theleftistlawyer

              Vecna was innocent!

              haliphax 👾H This user is from outside of this forum
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              @doctorwhom @theleftistlawyer Look at me! Look at how funny and clever I am! Look! Please look!

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              • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

                That is darkly hilarious.

                AriaflameA This user is from outside of this forum
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                @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer The people trying to spread despair and discourage people from voting could be suspected of being bots working for Russia. I mean, that's what a reasonable supposition would be of such people.

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                • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                  Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                  @theleftistlawyer I hate that I'm glad you said it because there's statistically at least one dipshit out there who is actually trying to argue this.

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                  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                    @theleftistlawyer unfortunately from abroad it seems that the majority of US citizens have long stopped separating reality from fiction and therefore in their minds Judge Dredd probably set a legal precedent circa 1980.

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                    • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                      @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                      There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

                      That is darkly hilarious.

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                      @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer Eat all the dicks, you absolute tool.

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                      • Kid ManiaC Kid Mania

                        @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                        There are people out there who still think the midterms are going to matter...?

                        That is darkly hilarious.

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                        @clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.

                        Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.

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                        • WesDymW WesDym

                          @clintruin Cynicism has never solved any human problem, and never can. In most cases, it makes things worse.

                          Normally, I perman-block anyone who talks like this, because I no longer tolerate such destructively corrosive talk. But I get the feeling you're just being careless, so in your case it's just a temporary mute. But try to be better.

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                          @wesdym
                          "Cynicism has never solved any human problem"

                          Please understand I pray I'm wrong. I really do. But dangerous naivete has never solved any human problems either.

                          The President of the United States says he wants to make my country the 51st state, I believe my cynicism is well earned...not to mention FOUR YEARS of nothing after J6...the most clear cut example I have seen of treason in my lifetime.

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                          • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                            Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                            @theleftistlawyer
                            That's not how things work in America anymore.

                            Thankfully, we can accuse ICE members of being criminals and execute them on the spot without trial, because criminals don't deserve due process.

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                            • AriaflameA Ariaflame

                              @clintruin @connynasch @theleftistlawyer The people trying to spread despair and discourage people from voting could be suspected of being bots working for Russia. I mean, that's what a reasonable supposition would be of such people.

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                              @ariaflame @connynasch @theleftistlawyer
                              "Everything is ultimately peculiar and ultimately ridiculous."
                              - Thomas Ligotti

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                              • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                crazyeddie
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                                @theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.

                                It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.

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                                • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                  Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                  @theleftistlawyer That's basic! But the US is not a normal country anymore, it seems

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                                  • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                    Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                    @theleftistlawyer A nation of losers. Murders its kids for decades, just to keep the populace armed. Then roles over when a pedophile russian agent illegally captures their government with its goons.

                                    All the while threatening to send its mindless hordes to civilized countries.

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                                    • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                      Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                      @theleftistlawyer absolutely correct!! Of course, the same applies to the law enforcement folks🤷🏻‍♂️

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                                      • crazyeddieC crazyeddie

                                        @theleftistlawyer Technically speaking, so is the ICE agent. He'll continue being innocent too because it's highly unlikely he'll be prosecuted.

                                        It's not going to be long before this argument is used against those who say, "Murderer!" We should expect accusations of slander and sedition based on this very premise.

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                                        @crazyeddie ianal but it seems to me:

                                        1 there's a material difference between an accusation and an execution.

                                        2. for it to be slander, the accusation needs to be false.

                                        Anyway, anything goes in the us these days, so you might still be right for all I know.

                                        @theleftistlawyer

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                                        • Sheryl WeikalT Sheryl Weikal

                                          Gentle reminder that EVERYONE shot by ICE or the police is innocent. Every single one. Cops aren't Judge Dredd. A person is innocent until proven guilty IN A COURT, so until a person is found guilty by a judge or jury, they're innocent. They're ALL innocent.

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                                          @theleftistlawyer Gentle reminder to do content warnings, please 🙂

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