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Itch.io 'deindexes' all NSFW games, blames same anti-porn group that campaigned against Steam

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    mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    Start using monero

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    • OgmiosO Ogmios

      Right, that’s why they CAN do it, but I’m talking about why they WANT to do it. Basically people have become so insanely over saturated with porn in their own lives, we’ve literally just had to endure an entire decade of perverts making their own politics about almost nothing other than their sexual perversions.

      So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

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      bane_killgrind@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      That’s not why they want to do the it. They want to do it because money and power.

      They meaning everybody.

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      • OgmiosO Ogmios

        Right, that’s why they CAN do it, but I’m talking about why they WANT to do it. Basically people have become so insanely over saturated with porn in their own lives, we’ve literally just had to endure an entire decade of perverts making their own politics about almost nothing other than their sexual perversions.

        So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

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        nocturnalmorning@lemmy.world
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        What the fuck are you even talking about? I cant tell if youre defending this shit, or having some weird view where you think youre against it. Either way, eww.

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        • N nocturnalmorning@lemmy.world

          What the fuck are you even talking about? I cant tell if youre defending this shit, or having some weird view where you think youre against it. Either way, eww.

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          ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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          This person is also a racist. Not worth talking to.

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          • Altima NEOA Altima NEO

            This is so dumb. . I bet those guys actually watch the most porn.

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            cyborganism
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            Every acccusation is a confession etc etc

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            • Z zaidka@lemmy.ca

              Could this be some kind of tactic to manipulate the crypto market?

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              bronzebeard@lemmy.zip
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              There’s way more direct ways to manipulate the crypto market than whatever this would be.

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              • G ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                I’m talking about why they WANT to do it.

                Hm… Looks to me like you’re making excuses for a group of crazy anti-LGBTQ evangelicals who are using lies and slander to police the world based on your own flawed morality.

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                Ogmios
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                You think Visa is run by crazy evangelicals?

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                • P PonyOfWar

                  So really, either man the fuck up and actually prove to people that those who choose to live as you do aren’t less than worthless shit disturbers, or recognize that you have a problem and give it up. You can choose which one.

                  I don’t see why I’d have to prove anything to some random payment providers. Their job is to handle my payment for any legal purpose, not to morally judge me because some conservative organization from the other side of the world told them to.

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                  Ogmios
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                  #32

                  And that attitude is exactly why the progressive movement is collapsing around you. I’m not talking about what you personally are into, I’m talking about the entitlement of assholes who are so perverted that they think they are OWED the delivery of pornography through public spaces. Get a fucking grip and people might take you seriously again.

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                  • OgmiosO Ogmios

                    And that attitude is exactly why the progressive movement is collapsing around you. I’m not talking about what you personally are into, I’m talking about the entitlement of assholes who are so perverted that they think they are OWED the delivery of pornography through public spaces. Get a fucking grip and people might take you seriously again.

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                    piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                    #33

                    People are entitled to equality in service. Porn is no more illegal then alcohol. If you can go to a grocery store and buy a bottle of whiskey on credit, then why should porn be treated any different?

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                    • P piccolo@sh.itjust.works

                      People are entitled to equality in service. Porn is no more illegal then alcohol. If you can go to a grocery store and buy a bottle of whiskey on credit, then why should porn be treated any different?

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                      Ogmios
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                      #34

                      Dude. Kids aren’t being delivered alcohol.

                      Get a fucking grip.

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                      • OgmiosO Ogmios

                        Dude. Kids aren’t being delivered alcohol.

                        Get a fucking grip.

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                        piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                        Dude. Stores have age restrictions. If they lie and steal their parents card… thats a parental issue.

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                        • sad_detective_man@leminal.spaceS sad_detective_man@leminal.space

                          man these canaries keep dropping dead for some reason, I’m not sure why we had them

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                          Match!!
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                          I feel like I used to know but I’m getting kinda sleepy and it’s sorta hard to breathe

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                            Lvxferre [he/him]
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                            #37

                            Sorry for the double reply.

                            In the short-ish term, I think a good way to address this would be if governments across the globe had laws like “a service provider cannot refuse to provide services to a platform based on the nature of the lawful content within that platform”.

                            Odds are Visa/MC/PP wouldn’t even try to fight against such a law - they don’t really mind servicing itch.io, from their PoV it would be yet another customer; the problem is pressure exerted by those Protestant nutjobs in Australia, but once a law is present they can’t exert that pressure.

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                            • P piccolo@sh.itjust.works

                              Dude. Stores have age restrictions. If they lie and steal their parents card… thats a parental issue.

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                              Ogmios
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                              #38

                              You really can’t be honest at all about the MASSIVE difference in access, can you?

                              Try and take your hand out of your pants before you reply again.

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                                monkdervierte@lemmy.zip
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                                And “how” did they pressure the payment processors? Pressure on central deciders or what? Spicy data on them?

                                And couldn’t they influence elections that way?

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                                • OgmiosO Ogmios

                                  You really can’t be honest at all about the MASSIVE difference in access, can you?

                                  Try and take your hand out of your pants before you reply again.

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                                  piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                                  Personally i have no interest in such content. I simple do not wish to have corpations making decisions for us peasants without going throigh the proper democratic process.

                                  And there isnt much difference, in fact nothing stops people from buying alcohol online.

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                                  • P piccolo@sh.itjust.works

                                    Personally i have no interest in such content. I simple do not wish to have corpations making decisions for us peasants without going throigh the proper democratic process.

                                    And there isnt much difference, in fact nothing stops people from buying alcohol online.

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                                    Ogmios
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                                    Literally not one honest bone exists in your body, huh?

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                                    • OgmiosO Ogmios

                                      Literally not one honest bone exists in your body, huh?

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                                      piccolo@sh.itjust.works
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                                      How am I being dishonest? Please explain.

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                                      • Lvxferre [he/him]L Lvxferre [he/him]

                                        Sorry for the double reply.

                                        In the short-ish term, I think a good way to address this would be if governments across the globe had laws like “a service provider cannot refuse to provide services to a platform based on the nature of the lawful content within that platform”.

                                        Odds are Visa/MC/PP wouldn’t even try to fight against such a law - they don’t really mind servicing itch.io, from their PoV it would be yet another customer; the problem is pressure exerted by those Protestant nutjobs in Australia, but once a law is present they can’t exert that pressure.

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                                        gamegod@lemmy.ca
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                                        This law sounds good in theory, but there’s a lot of lawful content that is really undesirable (scams, spam, deepfakes, hate speech, etc.) and platforms need to be able to deal with that. The law isn’t fast or flexible enough to keep up, and every country has different (or laughable) definitions of some of these things.

                                        The YouTube community guidelines are a pretty good overview of whatever shady shit people are trying to pull these days: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en

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                                        • G gamegod@lemmy.ca

                                          This law sounds good in theory, but there’s a lot of lawful content that is really undesirable (scams, spam, deepfakes, hate speech, etc.) and platforms need to be able to deal with that. The law isn’t fast or flexible enough to keep up, and every country has different (or laughable) definitions of some of these things.

                                          The YouTube community guidelines are a pretty good overview of whatever shady shit people are trying to pull these days: https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9288567?hl=en

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                                          Lvxferre [he/him]
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                                          #44

                                          but there’s a lot of lawful content that is really undesirable (scams, spam, deepfakes, hate speech, etc.)

                                          • scam - AFAIK already illegal in most of the world.
                                          • spam - should be illegal, at least in the most egregious forms.
                                          • deepfakes - it depends a lot on what is being done with the deepfake in question; plenty of them (like non-consensual sexualisation of someone) are either illegal or should be.
                                          • hate speech - it targets the dignity, well-being and often the lives of marginalised groups. Should be illegal.

                                          Are you noticing the pattern? Those are things that should be handled by a government in defence of the public interest of everyone, not by a platform in defence of private interest of its shareholders. Even if a population has weak control over its government, it’s more than it has over a corporation.

                                          The law isn’t fast or flexible enough to keep up and every country has different (or laughable) definitions of some of these things.

                                          This problem is not a good reason to create an even bigger problem. Like the one we’re seeing - private interest dictating what should be allowed or not in the public sphere.

                                          And, seriously, if the problem was just porn who would give a fuck. (Okay, some people would, some wouldn’t.) The problem is that those corporations will happily target any group, any interest, any person, as soon as they deem profitable; because they have the power to do so, so porn is in this context only the canary of the mine. And this power needs to be curtailed.


                                          But let’s say, for the sake of argument, that implementing such a wide law would be unviable. Well, focus on financial service providers then - banks, payment processors, and the likes. Problem solved.

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