seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
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@GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this
"hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"
@sarae @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa
Sometimes e.g. in the actuallyAutistic group, people post kind of personal things, and even if they didn’t set it to followers only, I sometimes feel it should perhaps stay in the group. Then I just favour it, rather than boost.
Also, I have a pinned post about this very topic
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it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we’re all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don’t push the posts directly to followers’ Home Timelines — so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it’s more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).
it doesn’t really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i’ve seen, as Mastodon doesn’t seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I'm baffled. I remember discoursr on Twitter where people were displeased with faving pushing tweets into other peoples timelines, because they would have used retweets for that.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I click like/favouriote on anything that made my day brighter or that I find useful. If I think it may brighten the day or be useful for others in my feed, I also boost it. I like the idea that I can express my feelings about what I read in my feed with just a click, without worrying about whether I'm training some algorithm etc.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae Full ACK. If I see somebody posting something lovely I will favorite it. Some Artwork for example. If the artists has to sell it, to make his or her living, I will boost it. Also I'm happy, if somebody just likes what I'm posting. It tells me, that somebody is reading my output. So just hit the favorite button if you like something, the author will see it and thats good. -
seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae Wild if that's much of a discussion. I would have expected less of a "pragmatism and productivity only" from folks on here.
Then again, I suppose with how much people are broadly trained to always be promoting themselves on platforms, I shouldn't be all that surprised. Particularly given the size of the "empathy is bad, actually," crowd.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae If i like something, I fav it. If I need to read it later, I bookmark it. It's so weird the lengths people will go to try and recreate some kind of algorithmic magic on a network that's defined by its lack of black box algorithms
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
Thanks for 'speaking' out in favor of kindness and friendly feedback to others on social media. And against imposing limits on what 'favorite' means. It means different things, in different circumstances, as you and those in the thread have said. And it always means "I saw your message", which is enough to justify it.
Sometimes I even 'favorite' a post which describes something I detest (crimes, dirty trickery, rotten behavior, etc.), if I appreciate being informed about it.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.
What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I can just about muster a Gen X “whatever” to this. I will continue to favorite posts, and probably do it even more now I know that it annoys the self-appointed Mastodon HOA board.
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@sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world
@EarlyTwix @sarae
I find it somewhat jarring when a follower boosts my post without any interaction, especially if it's part of a discussion thread.
Also, I never follow anyone whose entire feed is just boosts. I want to read original content, not something that's recycled, unless it's really critical information that I might have otherwise missed. -
@lalah that really confused me as well
commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut
hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae
I just like sometimes because my brain is broken and so I can remember if I've already read something or if I'm stuck in a loop.So good luck getting me to stop.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
"Don't like, only boost" is just someone saying "I don't care about YOUR Fedi experience, what can you do for ME?"
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I would say it depends on what the toot is. If you think "I want other people to see this, too" I would suggest you "boost", and if you think "this speaks to me but it's not necessarily something that the entire world needs to see" you can "favourite". In any case, I most often do both.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae
Excuse me, what the fuck?Why wouldn't I favorite a post that I like? It shows the person who posted it that I like it.
And it shows up in my favorites list.
Clicking the 'fav' button has zero downsides. Why would anyone discourage its usage? -
seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I see it largely as the Fedi equivalent of nodding as you pass somebody on the street. We are both humans and I acknowledge your existence in a more-positive-than-neutral way.
I don't see the problem. It's not some great kindness, but it's doesn't hurt either. Reminds me of the Nirvana fallacy, though it doesn't fit exactly. Doing something mildly nice is seen as a bad thing, even though it's better than nothing, because it's not as good as it could have been.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae I often see the same attitude on Tumblr: "Oh you can just do your own thing, we don't interact with posts here."
Sounds good on paper and maybe even a little positive until you realize you desperately want a sign that your audience is out there and that you are seen.
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it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post
This is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It’s just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server’s remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.
The fediverse isn’t synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.
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