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  • SaraS Sara

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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    Dio9sys
    wrote last edited by
    #103

    @sarae If i like something, I fav it. If I need to read it later, I bookmark it. It's so weird the lengths people will go to try and recreate some kind of algorithmic magic on a network that's defined by its lack of black box algorithms

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    • SaraS Sara

      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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      Roy -- the dull one
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      #104

      @sarae

      Thanks for 'speaking' out in favor of kindness and friendly feedback to others on social media. And against imposing limits on what 'favorite' means. It means different things, in different circumstances, as you and those in the thread have said. And it always means "I saw your message", which is enough to justify it.

      Sometimes I even 'favorite' a post which describes something I detest (crimes, dirty trickery, rotten behavior, etc.), if I appreciate being informed about it.

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      • SaraS Sara

        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

        Michael CookF This user is from outside of this forum
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        Michael Cook
        wrote last edited by
        #105

        @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

        What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

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        • SaraS Sara

          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

          SteggyS This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #106

          @sarae I can just about muster a Gen X “whatever” to this. I will continue to favorite posts, and probably do it even more now I know that it annoys the self-appointed Mastodon HOA board. 😊

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          • Early Twix 🏳️‍🌈E Early Twix 🏳️‍🌈

            @sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world

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            #107

            @EarlyTwix @sarae
            I find it somewhat jarring when a follower boosts my post without any interaction, especially if it's part of a discussion thread.
            Also, I never follow anyone whose entire feed is just boosts. I want to read original content, not something that's recycled, unless it's really critical information that I might have otherwise missed.

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            • SaraS Sara

              @lalah that really confused me as well

              commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

              hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

              Tuukka RT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Tuukka R
              wrote last edited by
              #108

              @sarae @lalah

              Commenting does *decrease* post conversation visibility, though. The worse the noise-to-signal ratio, the earlier people give up reading a thread

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              • SaraS Sara

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                TanekRune
                wrote last edited by
                #109

                @sarae
                I just like sometimes because my brain is broken and so I can remember if I've already read something or if I'm stuck in a loop.

                So good luck getting me to stop.

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                • SaraS Sara

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                  Jags-O-LanternC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Jags-O-Lantern
                  wrote last edited by
                  #110

                  @sarae

                  "Don't like, only boost" is just someone saying "I don't care about YOUR Fedi experience, what can you do for ME?"

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                  • SaraS Sara

                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                    #111

                    @sarae I would say it depends on what the toot is. If you think "I want other people to see this, too" I would suggest you "boost", and if you think "this speaks to me but it's not necessarily something that the entire world needs to see" you can "favourite". In any case, I most often do both.

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                    • SaraS Sara

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                      #112

                      @sarae
                      Excuse me, what the fuck?

                      Why wouldn't I favorite a post that I like? It shows the person who posted it that I like it.

                      And it shows up in my favorites list.
                      Clicking the 'fav' button has zero downsides. Why would anyone discourage its usage?

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                      • SaraS Sara

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                        taylorT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        taylor
                        wrote last edited by
                        #113

                        @sarae I see it largely as the Fedi equivalent of nodding as you pass somebody on the street. We are both humans and I acknowledge your existence in a more-positive-than-neutral way.

                        I don't see the problem. It's not some great kindness, but it's doesn't hurt either. Reminds me of the Nirvana fallacy, though it doesn't fit exactly. Doing something mildly nice is seen as a bad thing, even though it's better than nothing, because it's not as good as it could have been.

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                        • SaraS Sara

                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          thattagenT This user is from outside of this forum
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                          thattagen
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                          #114

                          @sarae I often see the same attitude on Tumblr: "Oh you can just do your own thing, we don't interact with posts here."

                          Sounds good on paper and maybe even a little positive until you realize you desperately want a sign that your audience is out there and that you are seen.

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                          • KichaeK Kichae

                            Sara

                            it’s true that it doesn’t particulary increase the distribution of your post

                            This is also just a very mastodon-centric view of things. It is neither inherently true, nor true on all existing platforms. It’s just the way that Mastodon developers decided to implement things. On Lemmy, an up-vote increases the post/comment ranking and increases redistribution. On NodeBB, a like forces the server to retain the the post beyond the server’s remote content purge threshold. Other platforms could do things different still, and likely already do.

                            The fediverse isn’t synonymous with Mastodon. It never was, and it never will be.

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                            taylor
                            wrote last edited by
                            #115

                            @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                            I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                            • taylorT taylor

                              @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                              I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                              #116

                              taylor Misskey and its spinoffs work that way, IIRC.

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