#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
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@ami_angelwings Easy one for me. I understand that it would make for boring scifi but sound cannot travel through space. Nope, that explosion sound on Star Trek isn't real.
@chertridge the interesting part is that Nick Meyer is partially responsible for the sound in space thing, I know in ToS a lot of the sounds happened when the shot was from inside the ships, and I can't remember if they had a lot of outside space sounds though I'm sure they did, but Meyer said even though he knows sound can't travel in space, it would be boring to have silence as ships moved around, that's why in Star Trek 2 he added the now-standard engine hum that every starship has in a space shot when they cruise
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#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
i.e. you get that it's fiction, & that it's a thing that happens, or that in the fictional world it's accepted, justified, or explained, or fans love it, etc. It's not that you don't understand it, it's just that you don't buy it, it doesn't work for you, you just can't accept it or take it seriously, etc...
This is a judgement free zone (at least from my end) so if you're like "when space magic shows up I can't take it seriously" or "ppl being able to fly makes no sense to me" etc that's totally fine.
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@ami_angelwings true romantic love can only happen between two people who absolutely do not like, or respect each other as people, whatsoever.
It's so common that I can name you Night of Azure as an exception because... What do you mean the girlfriends actually like each other as friends, co-workers, as well as girlfriends!!?!?!???!
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@ami_angelwings true romantic love can only happen between two people who absolutely do not like, or respect each other as people, whatsoever.
It's so common that I can name you Night of Azure as an exception because... What do you mean the girlfriends actually like each other as friends, co-workers, as well as girlfriends!!?!?!???!
@BigShellEvent the more you hate each other the more true the love
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@BigShellEvent the more you hate each other the more true the love
@ami_angelwings what if I'm not aromantic it's just all the fictions made romance sound like a form of torture
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#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
i.e. you get that it's fiction, & that it's a thing that happens, or that in the fictional world it's accepted, justified, or explained, or fans love it, etc. It's not that you don't understand it, it's just that you don't buy it, it doesn't work for you, you just can't accept it or take it seriously, etc...
This is a judgement free zone (at least from my end) so if you're like "when space magic shows up I can't take it seriously" or "ppl being able to fly makes no sense to me" etc that's totally fine.
#fiction #Television #TV #manga #anime #film #movies #books #CCGs #ttrpg #videogames #comics #comicbooks
@ami_angelwings shrinking. Can not stop thinking about atoms, and how dense shrunk people would be
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@ami_angelwings what if I'm not aromantic it's just all the fictions made romance sound like a form of torture
@ami_angelwings also PLEEEASE PLAY NIGHT OF AZURE i love the way the girls developed their relationship in such a mutually growing kind of way
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@ami_angelwings For some reason it doesn't bother me that spaceships can bank turn in space, but shields (as in "shields up, red alert") are just a "c'mon now, that's not real!" situation for me.
@5easypieces @ami_angelwings Banking would be possible with compensating lateral thrusters though. That's already a thing in modern ships. The real issue there is the mechanism of somehow compensating so people standing up or not strapped down thoroughly don't go flying against the walls. Star Trek definitely didn't care.
I don't know about shields. I've seen some things talk about concepts like really powerful electromagnetic fields being utilized and theoretically that could do somewhat maybe, possibly. Or other ideas like manipulating some actual physical material? Definite scifi trope, but maybe not impossible.
Having an alarm system does make sense though and red would definitely be the critical alarm color. That's pretty much a non-scifi thing.
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#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
i.e. you get that it's fiction, & that it's a thing that happens, or that in the fictional world it's accepted, justified, or explained, or fans love it, etc. It's not that you don't understand it, it's just that you don't buy it, it doesn't work for you, you just can't accept it or take it seriously, etc...
This is a judgement free zone (at least from my end) so if you're like "when space magic shows up I can't take it seriously" or "ppl being able to fly makes no sense to me" etc that's totally fine.
#fiction #Television #TV #manga #anime #film #movies #books #CCGs #ttrpg #videogames #comics #comicbooks
@ami_angelwings easy for me: the trope of "the clone must die" and variations thereof.
I get so sick of the noble sacrifice to save the original or treating clones with identical memories (up to that point) as monsters or so on and so forth. (This is for clones or doppelgangers that aren't written as deliberately evil, which is a different can of worms entirely.)
And a further subtrope where the clone lives, on or off screen (usually off in older shows to save money on compositing) but they keep them as a bottle episode death just in case they need them for that. Older example: Thomas Riker brought back to be a Maquis agent for one episode. Recent example. Killing off Frost on The Flash after her coexisting perfectly with Caitlyn for like three seasons.
Anyway
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And consent in that ??@Sobex yeah there's no consent, I've seen justifications of it, I know why Yuri fans like it, but to me it's just the aro/ace version of "you can turn a lesbian straight by forcing physical contact on them and they realize they like it", I know people will say "she wasn't aro/ace to begin with, she was just finding herself, she just didn't meet the right person, etc" I know they have a discussion in the manga with an ace character, but i still see it as "see sometimes lack of consent and the magical kiss is needed to force you to realize you actually love somebody/your sexuality is wrong"
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@ami_angelwings shrinking. Can not stop thinking about atoms, and how dense shrunk people would be
@bikubi I also wonder how they breathe
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#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
i.e. you get that it's fiction, & that it's a thing that happens, or that in the fictional world it's accepted, justified, or explained, or fans love it, etc. It's not that you don't understand it, it's just that you don't buy it, it doesn't work for you, you just can't accept it or take it seriously, etc...
This is a judgement free zone (at least from my end) so if you're like "when space magic shows up I can't take it seriously" or "ppl being able to fly makes no sense to me" etc that's totally fine.
#fiction #Television #TV #manga #anime #film #movies #books #CCGs #ttrpg #videogames #comics #comicbooks
@ami_angelwings this reminds me of something I saw on a forum years ago when the Twilight books were coming out and there was lots on controversy about them... I never read them but I guess in one book Edward the vampire impregnates Bella even though it was established that vampires like himself don't have heartbeats. this led to people on the forum questioning how he was able to, er... consumate their marriage, in the first place haha.
(this is a book series where corpses sparkle so they were probably overthinking it...)
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@bikubi I also wonder how they breathe
@ami_angelwings yess! See also, time freezing. Atoms. I need to breathe
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@ami_angelwings easy for me: the trope of "the clone must die" and variations thereof.
I get so sick of the noble sacrifice to save the original or treating clones with identical memories (up to that point) as monsters or so on and so forth. (This is for clones or doppelgangers that aren't written as deliberately evil, which is a different can of worms entirely.)
And a further subtrope where the clone lives, on or off screen (usually off in older shows to save money on compositing) but they keep them as a bottle episode death just in case they need them for that. Older example: Thomas Riker brought back to be a Maquis agent for one episode. Recent example. Killing off Frost on The Flash after her coexisting perfectly with Caitlyn for like three seasons.
Anyway
@xerozohar I liked that they kept Thomas Riker, that was fresh to me, but I hated that they didn't do anything with him but bring him back for one ratings baiting early season DS9 episode (they even advertised it as Riker guest stars in DS9) and then have him just be thrown in a Cardassian gulag somewhere forever I guess
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@ami_angelwings Easy one for me. I understand that it would make for boring scifi but sound cannot travel through space. Nope, that explosion sound on Star Trek isn't real.
@chertridge @ami_angelwings I've seen maybe two things ever that actually implemented a soundless space. I wish more did. As you say, sound won't travel through space itself. I suppose you could hear, say, an explosion when matter such as released air and debris actually physically reached you, but that's about it. It sort of is too bad not many things have been willing to be brave enough to implement this particular bit of realism.
At least one famous movie got away with it though!
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#QuestionOfTheDay What's something (a trope, plot point, character type, twist, technology, magic, decision, conceit of the genre/world, whatever) in fiction that you just can't buy.
i.e. you get that it's fiction, & that it's a thing that happens, or that in the fictional world it's accepted, justified, or explained, or fans love it, etc. It's not that you don't understand it, it's just that you don't buy it, it doesn't work for you, you just can't accept it or take it seriously, etc...
This is a judgement free zone (at least from my end) so if you're like "when space magic shows up I can't take it seriously" or "ppl being able to fly makes no sense to me" etc that's totally fine.
#fiction #Television #TV #manga #anime #film #movies #books #CCGs #ttrpg #videogames #comics #comicbooks
@ami_angelwings "If you die in the Matrix you die in real life"
It's petty but it means that almost nobody is willing to spend a couple hours thinking of a different way to create stakes in a scenario involving a holodeck/vr/whatever. And so every holodeck/vr/whatever story ends up basically exactly the same.
But there ARE ways. Hell, fucking Star Trek Voyager in one of its worst slumps figured out a way.
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@ami_angelwings easy for me: the trope of "the clone must die" and variations thereof.
I get so sick of the noble sacrifice to save the original or treating clones with identical memories (up to that point) as monsters or so on and so forth. (This is for clones or doppelgangers that aren't written as deliberately evil, which is a different can of worms entirely.)
And a further subtrope where the clone lives, on or off screen (usually off in older shows to save money on compositing) but they keep them as a bottle episode death just in case they need them for that. Older example: Thomas Riker brought back to be a Maquis agent for one episode. Recent example. Killing off Frost on The Flash after her coexisting perfectly with Caitlyn for like three seasons.
Anyway
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@chertridge @ami_angelwings I've seen maybe two things ever that actually implemented a soundless space. I wish more did. As you say, sound won't travel through space itself. I suppose you could hear, say, an explosion when matter such as released air and debris actually physically reached you, but that's about it. It sort of is too bad not many things have been willing to be brave enough to implement this particular bit of realism.
At least one famous movie got away with it though!
@nazokiyoubinbou @ami_angelwings I've see (not heard) it a time or two but can't remember what shows/movies
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@ami_angelwings shrinking. Can not stop thinking about atoms, and how dense shrunk people would be
@bikubi @ami_angelwings Even if it actually removes atoms so it ends up being roughly the same, a living organism is balanced to be the size range it's supposed to be. Everything would go wildly out of control and hearts would explode or whatever, lol.
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@nazokiyoubinbou @ami_angelwings I've see (not heard) it a time or two but can't remember what shows/movies
@chertridge @ami_angelwings 2001: A Space Odyssey would be the most famous one. It plays music loudly and the stuff going on in space is dead silent.
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@ami_angelwings yess! See also, time freezing. Atoms. I need to breathe
@bikubi also when people phase out of normal physical existence, how they breathe, or even move, if gravity affects them, etc
