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An interesting piece about the #ttrpg media landscape: https://personable.blog/media-crowdfunding/

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  • CharnockP Charnock

    The whole combat effectiveness type approach to gaming is why I find it hard to chat to local gamers, in a gaming shop, who are gaming.

    Because it just looks like an RPG

    But it isn't.

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    @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland I don't want to object to people enjoying that style of gaming. I just feel sad that some people don't know about the broader range of possibilities, especially when they clearly want to play in a way D&D doesn't accommodate well.

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      @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland I don't want to object to people enjoying that style of gaming. I just feel sad that some people don't know about the broader range of possibilities, especially when they clearly want to play in a way D&D doesn't accommodate well.

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      I don't object either, but it's a total silo, it makes discussing other games like some Plato's Cave thought experiment.

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      • CharnockP Charnock

        It also covered whatever games were on the go without favouritism beyond what people wrote. I quite liked their Barbarian class which always seemed more interesting than the Unearthed Arcana one. Much shouting in the D&D over that.

        Dragon always seemed so bland. A pabulum of gaming.

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        @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
        I don't think the US ever had White Dwarf, but Dragon Magazine sustained me back during my teenage years when actually *getting to play the game* was pretty much only a dream.

        But even that eventually went through decay.

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        • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

          @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
          I don't think the US ever had White Dwarf, but Dragon Magazine sustained me back during my teenage years when actually *getting to play the game* was pretty much only a dream.

          But even that eventually went through decay.

          1/2

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          @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
          Even as professionally-constrained as it was, older Dragon still used to be heavy on the imaginative parts of the game, and gave tiny glimpses of what else was out there through reviews. When it became more focused on presenting new 3.5 mechanics, which were so widely considered unbalanced that they had to slap "no, we're official, honest!" onto the cover, I let my sub lapse. WotC's website was better at being Dragon than Dragon at the end.

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          • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

            @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
            Even as professionally-constrained as it was, older Dragon still used to be heavy on the imaginative parts of the game, and gave tiny glimpses of what else was out there through reviews. When it became more focused on presenting new 3.5 mechanics, which were so widely considered unbalanced that they had to slap "no, we're official, honest!" onto the cover, I let my sub lapse. WotC's website was better at being Dragon than Dragon at the end.

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            the UK had some great gaming magazines on and off. White Dwarf obviously, but Imagine and Arcane both had great stuff from time to time.

            And there was a dreadful magazine called Fantazia that they let any old gargoyle write for back in the day

            <_<

            >_>

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            • CharnockP Charnock

              the UK had some great gaming magazines on and off. White Dwarf obviously, but Imagine and Arcane both had great stuff from time to time.

              And there was a dreadful magazine called Fantazia that they let any old gargoyle write for back in the day

              <_<

              >_>

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              @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
              I did like the idea of possibly writing an article for Dragon, but unfortunately by the time things aligned such that it would have been practical (as opposed to an outsider looking in trying to write about something she had no practical experience with), Dragon had changed too much and stuff like blogging and making d20 supplements had supplanted it as industry entry paths.

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              • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

                @Printdevil @strangequark @Taskerland
                I don't think the US ever had White Dwarf, but Dragon Magazine sustained me back during my teenage years when actually *getting to play the game* was pretty much only a dream.

                But even that eventually went through decay.

                1/2

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                @pteryx The first 100 issues of #WhiteDwarf are all on archive.org if you want to take a look:

                https://archive.org/details/white-dwarf-magazine-001-100/White%20Dwarf%20001/

                @Printdevil @Taskerland

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                • Strange QuarkS Strange Quark

                  @pteryx The first 100 issues of #WhiteDwarf are all on archive.org if you want to take a look:

                  https://archive.org/details/white-dwarf-magazine-001-100/White%20Dwarf%20001/

                  @Printdevil @Taskerland

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                  And Arcane

                  https://archive.org/details/arcane-magazine/Arcane%2001/

                  @strangequark @pteryx @Taskerland

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                  • CharnockP Charnock

                    And Arcane

                    https://archive.org/details/arcane-magazine/Arcane%2001/

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                    And Imagine if you look around individually

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                    Imagine Magazine 06 : TSR U.K. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                    This should be added to the magazine rack, Imagine Magazine page!!! If I can find the Special Edition issue, I will upload that one for inclusion in the same...

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                    • CharnockP Charnock

                      And Imagine if you look around individually

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                      Imagine Magazine 06 : TSR U.K. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

                      This should be added to the magazine rack, Imagine Magazine page!!! If I can find the Special Edition issue, I will upload that one for inclusion in the same...

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                      Imagine was an odd one because it was by TSR UK but its city building and maps were lovely.

                      @strangequark @pteryx @Taskerland

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                      • CharnockP Charnock

                        the UK had some great gaming magazines on and off. White Dwarf obviously, but Imagine and Arcane both had great stuff from time to time.

                        And there was a dreadful magazine called Fantazia that they let any old gargoyle write for back in the day

                        <_<

                        >_>

                        @pteryx @strangequark @Taskerland

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                        @Printdevil @pteryx @strangequark @Taskerland GM and GameMaster International weren’t bad, either, just quietly, though I found the former’s large format and stapled binding didn’t survive well.

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                          @Printdevil @pteryx @strangequark @Taskerland GM and GameMaster International weren’t bad, either, just quietly, though I found the former’s large format and stapled binding didn’t survive well.

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                          Did any of you ever come across Tortured Souls by Beast Ents.? It was a UK magazine of D&D adventures in the 1980s. I owned several issues, long consigned to the dustbin by my mother who disapproved of That Kind Of Thing.

                          Production values were very high. As I remember, the adventures came with full-colour floorplans. I can't remember much about the content. One was a Dwarvish lair or mine or something.

                          @davej @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland

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                          • Strange QuarkS Strange Quark

                            Did any of you ever come across Tortured Souls by Beast Ents.? It was a UK magazine of D&D adventures in the 1980s. I owned several issues, long consigned to the dustbin by my mother who disapproved of That Kind Of Thing.

                            Production values were very high. As I remember, the adventures came with full-colour floorplans. I can't remember much about the content. One was a Dwarvish lair or mine or something.

                            @davej @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland

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                            @strangequark @davej @Printdevil @Taskerland
                            I hate parents who treat their kids' possessions, files, or even *space*, as something they have superior dominion over to that degree. And people wonder why we have a society where people don't understand concepts like privacy and consent...

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                            • Strange QuarkS Strange Quark

                              Did any of you ever come across Tortured Souls by Beast Ents.? It was a UK magazine of D&D adventures in the 1980s. I owned several issues, long consigned to the dustbin by my mother who disapproved of That Kind Of Thing.

                              Production values were very high. As I remember, the adventures came with full-colour floorplans. I can't remember much about the content. One was a Dwarvish lair or mine or something.

                              @davej @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland

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                              Unsurprisingly I have most of those.

                              Including the box of the Dwarven Mines.

                              @strangequark @davej @pteryx @Taskerland

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                              • Pteryx the Puzzle SecretaryP Pteryx the Puzzle Secretary

                                @strangequark @davej @Printdevil @Taskerland
                                I hate parents who treat their kids' possessions, files, or even *space*, as something they have superior dominion over to that degree. And people wonder why we have a society where people don't understand concepts like privacy and consent...

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                                I blame my mother throwing my stuff out for why I am a packrat now.

                                Also my packrattyness

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                                • Strange QuarkS Strange Quark

                                  Did any of you ever come across Tortured Souls by Beast Ents.? It was a UK magazine of D&D adventures in the 1980s. I owned several issues, long consigned to the dustbin by my mother who disapproved of That Kind Of Thing.

                                  Production values were very high. As I remember, the adventures came with full-colour floorplans. I can't remember much about the content. One was a Dwarvish lair or mine or something.

                                  @davej @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland

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                                  Look what I found...

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                                    Look what I found...

                                    @strangequark @davej @pteryx @Taskerland

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                                    • FoolishOwlF FoolishOwl

                                      @Printdevil @pteryx @Taskerland I don't want to object to people enjoying that style of gaming. I just feel sad that some people don't know about the broader range of possibilities, especially when they clearly want to play in a way D&D doesn't accommodate well.

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                                      @foolishowl @Printdevil @Taskerland
                                      What bugs me the most is that *because* of a combination D&D tunnel vision and people's refusal to learn new systems (which is less about "system mastery" as *I* understand the term and more about sheer laziness combined with a failure to understand the concept of "right tool for the right job"), people *try to design games* that are supposed to be very different from D&D, yet use 5e mechanics because they don't understand the distinction between them and RP.

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                                        @foolishowl @Printdevil @Taskerland
                                        What bugs me the most is that *because* of a combination D&D tunnel vision and people's refusal to learn new systems (which is less about "system mastery" as *I* understand the term and more about sheer laziness combined with a failure to understand the concept of "right tool for the right job"), people *try to design games* that are supposed to be very different from D&D, yet use 5e mechanics because they don't understand the distinction between them and RP.

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                                        That's the exact silo I find chatting about games at the local shop. You get so far with people and then.. 5e just is the cognitive block.

                                        Dogmatic entrenchment they call it in problem solving.

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                                        • CharnockP Charnock

                                          The whole combat effectiveness type approach to gaming is why I find it hard to chat to local gamers, in a gaming shop, who are gaming.

                                          Because it just looks like an RPG

                                          But it isn't.

                                          @pteryx @foolishowl @Taskerland

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                                          @Printdevil @pteryx @foolishowl @Taskerland This is so essential and needs to be more at the front of everyone's minds.

                                          So many people who would love ttrpgs get excited to "try DnD!" and then glaze over when you try to explain the action economy to them. They'd love to get back to talking to a merchant and making plot decisions, but they're stuck 50% or more of the time playing something that's more Warhammer than RP.

                                          It's fine that DnD is that. But it alienates newbies who SHOULD be here.

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