Ya know, right now would be an AMAZING time for Mastodon's leadership to break bread with the Black programmers that really wanted to help make this place less racist.'nBluesky just banned a prominent Black user from basically being seen by anyone.
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Ya know, right now would be an AMAZING time for Mastodon's leadership to break bread with the Black programmers that really wanted to help make this place less racist.
Bluesky just banned a prominent Black user from basically being seen by anyone. Because Bluesky's CEO is mad about their posts. ATProto is clearly showing serious signs of weakness.
Do the people who love the Fediverse have the guts to admit we have poorly served the Black community and need to apologize? To take radical steps to show this place will be worth investing in for Black users who may want to leave Bluesky?
Now is the time to act and do so. If ever there was a time to put a massive amount of momentum behind the Fediverse, it'd be now. We should do it.
@literalgrill PART OF the problem is that mastodon is lacking basic features to moderate harassment targeted at an individual, so it's hard to argue that mastodon has sufficient moderation. Because when you get a "private mention" reply, you have to [personally] moderate it, and the same thing happens with public replies that come from tiny or single-user instances.
however bsky is so much worse
edit: change individually to personally
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@literalgrill PART OF the problem is that mastodon is lacking basic features to moderate harassment targeted at an individual, so it's hard to argue that mastodon has sufficient moderation. Because when you get a "private mention" reply, you have to [personally] moderate it, and the same thing happens with public replies that come from tiny or single-user instances.
however bsky is so much worse
edit: change individually to personally
@literalgrill ANOTHER ONE is how you can't report someone who's blocked you
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@literalgrill ANOTHER ONE is how you can't report someone who's blocked you
Excuse me, but I don't understand. Why would anyone want to report someone for blocking them?
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Excuse me, but I don't understand. Why would anyone want to report someone for blocking them?
@Quasit @literalgrill what ppl do is send you a nasty message, then wait till you get it, then block you. so you get the message but you can't report it
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@Quasit @literalgrill what ppl do is send you a nasty message, then wait till you get it, then block you. so you get the message but you can't report it
That does sound obnoxious. I'm not sure if it's worth having an authority with the power that would be necessary to punish that sort of thing, though. As long as you can block the person back!
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That does sound obnoxious. I'm not sure if it's worth having an authority with the power that would be necessary to punish that sort of thing, though. As long as you can block the person back!
Accounts are cheap/disposable for people who don't care about reputation. And that is an asymmetry that harassers exploit.
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Accounts are cheap/disposable for people who don't care about reputation. And that is an asymmetry that harassers exploit.
@laprice @gildilinie @literalgrill
As far as I know there's no solution short from absolute regimentation of the entire internet and everyone using it by a centralized authority with overwhelming power. Which would be sure to be abused.
Annoying users are part of the price of freedom. To the extent that we have any left.
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@laprice @gildilinie @literalgrill
As far as I know there's no solution short from absolute regimentation of the entire internet and everyone using it by a centralized authority with overwhelming power. Which would be sure to be abused.
Annoying users are part of the price of freedom. To the extent that we have any left.
@Quasit @gildilinie @literalgrill
It's certainly something that fediverse servers could raise the costs for bad actors on.
Heck even sharing source IPs of problem sign ups and making new signups from problem IPs wait to post would at least slow their roll.
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@Quasit @gildilinie @literalgrill
It's certainly something that fediverse servers could raise the costs for bad actors on.
Heck even sharing source IPs of problem sign ups and making new signups from problem IPs wait to post would at least slow their roll.
@laprice @gildilinie @literalgrill
Maybe have two options: absolute free speech, or a heavily modified alternate forum?
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@laprice @gildilinie @literalgrill
Maybe have two options: absolute free speech, or a heavily modified alternate forum?
@Quasit @laprice @gildilinie @literalgrill I mean, thats essentially what people are asking the fediverse to offer, a choice of moderation.
Like if the tools are there for moderators to act, you now have a choice between servers and their moderation policies (and moderation actions) and with existing tools for switching, you can vote with your feet if you dislike those policies.
If the tools aren't there, you leave a bunch of people with a choice of slurs shouted at them or don't exist here
