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  • Windy cityP Windy city

    The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

    These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

    As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

    If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

    #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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    @pheonix Before I left Facebook back in 2007 or so I changed my user location to Lome, Togo, then began using FB to search all sorts of Togolaise stuff. Within weeks I was getting only about ten per cent of the junk emails I used to, and junk snail mail dropped to almost nothing. Gaming FB and leaving them was one of the best things I did that year 👍

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    • Windy cityP Windy city

      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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      @pheonix Very good advice. Just because somewhere asks, you don't have to tell

      I make it a game to break profiling & love it when I get wrong suggestions

      I tell the truth on govt, medical & financial things but anything else is fake

      I use unconnected aliases with different email, personal details to limit profiling to a small niche of someone who legally doesn't exist

      The problem is too much data collection &
      anything that can be faked should be

      TOS about accurate data are always ignored

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      • Windy cityP Windy city

        The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

        These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

        As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

        If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

        #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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        @pheonix Well said. As some others have already stated: you’ve put words to a thought I’ve had flitting at the edge of my consciousness but couldn’t express. 😁

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        • Windy cityP Windy city

          The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

          These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

          As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

          If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

          #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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          @pheonix You'd think the shopping predictions would be great as it's how they make their money, that they'd be laser-focused on my tastes and needs with pinpoint accuracy. I just got recommended curling tongs by Amazon. I've been completely bald with the sides/back shaven for 20+ years.

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          • Windy cityP Windy city

            The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

            These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

            As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

            If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

            #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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            @pheonix

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            • Windy cityP Windy city

              The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

              These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

              As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

              If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

              #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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              @pheonix It's called Genre Capture. I think.

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              • Windy cityP Windy city

                The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                @pheonix @uep not sure if you've seen this, but a few ideas on how to unflatten yourself

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                Pluralistic: Become unoptimizable (20 Aug 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

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                • craignicolC craignicol

                  @pheonix @uep not sure if you've seen this, but a few ideas on how to unflatten yourself

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                  Pluralistic: Become unoptimizable (20 Aug 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

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                  @craignicol @uep I hadn't so thanks for sharing, @pluralistic is usually spot on!

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                  • Arthur P. DentS Arthur P. Dent

                    @pheonix Well said. As some others have already stated: you’ve put words to a thought I’ve had flitting at the edge of my consciousness but couldn’t express. 😁

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                    @Saket I appreciate you

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                    • BeldarakB Beldarak

                      @pheonix
                      And also the classical, "I see you bought a hair dryer, you probably need ten more right? I'll show you some all month"

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                      @Beldarak that last example reallllly confuses me. You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?

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                      • TiTiNoNero :__:7 TiTiNoNero :__:

                        @pheonix It is a concept that I felt, but never found a way to express. You gave words to that, and for this I thank you!

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                        @77nn that's very kind of you! Thank you ☺️

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                        • Theophile EscargotT Theophile Escargot

                          @pheonix You'd think the shopping predictions would be great as it's how they make their money, that they'd be laser-focused on my tastes and needs with pinpoint accuracy. I just got recommended curling tongs by Amazon. I've been completely bald with the sides/back shaven for 20+ years.

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                          @TheoEsc
                          Tomorrow they may try & sell you a wig… for your curling tongs… 😁
                          @pheonix

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                          • Su_GS Su_G

                            @TheoEsc
                            Tomorrow they may try & sell you a wig… for your curling tongs… 😁
                            @pheonix

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                            @Su_G @TheoEsc it never ends 😂

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                            • Windy cityP Windy city

                              The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                              These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                              As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                              If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                              #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                              On YouTube, for example, you can do so by not clicking on recommended content from search results. This includes sections like "For you" and "People also search for".

                              My extension helps with this and lots of other QOL improvements. It's open source, privacy friendly and Mozilla recommended.

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                              Extension : Search Fixer

                              YouTube Search Fixer is an extension designed to fix YouTube search and de-clutter your search page to make it less distracting. It removes suggestions like For you, People also search for, Related to your search, etc from your feed. Install this to remove Shorts and much more from Search Results as well.

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                              • Windy cityP Windy city

                                On YouTube, for example, you can do so by not clicking on recommended content from search results. This includes sections like "For you" and "People also search for".

                                My extension helps with this and lots of other QOL improvements. It's open source, privacy friendly and Mozilla recommended.

                                Link Preview Image
                                Extension : Search Fixer

                                YouTube Search Fixer is an extension designed to fix YouTube search and de-clutter your search page to make it less distracting. It removes suggestions like For you, People also search for, Related to your search, etc from your feed. Install this to remove Shorts and much more from Search Results as well.

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                                @pheonix thank you for sharing this.

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                                • Windy cityP Windy city

                                  The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                  These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                  As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                  If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                  #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                  @pheonix Reminded me of this gem from Wendell Berry. Written 50 years ago, before prediction algorithms were suggesting music to anyone. https://allpoetry.com/poem/12622463-Manifesto--The-Mad-Farmer-Liberation-Front-by-Wendell-Berry

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                                  • Windy cityP Windy city

                                    @Beldarak that last example reallllly confuses me. You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?

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                                    @pheonix
                                    Yes, that is so strange… as you & others in this thread comment: “You bought X once, so you must need 10 more of it! Who thought of this?” 🤔
                                    It's so creep- weird. Why does the algo keep trying to sell us the same thing? As if we are our past? It’s such incredibly lazy programming. Advertizers pay for this? Why? Make it make sense!! 🤔
                                    #algorithms #marketing #advertizers #advertisers #advertising
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                                    • Windy cityP Windy city

                                      The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                      These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                      As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                      If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                      #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                      @pheonix

                                      What, you don't want to buy another replacement battery for your celphone this week?

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                                      • Windy cityP Windy city

                                        The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                        These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                        As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                        If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                        #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                        @pheonix This is very well put and hadn't occurred to me in exactly the same way, but I feel similar about all the generative AI. It only regurgitates what it has ingested and as starts to feed on itself, nothing new and surprising can come out of it. I don't want to be trapped in a feedback loop of the same content being recycled and homogenized endlessly. Where is the spark of creativity?

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                                        • Windy cityP Windy city

                                          The most annoying thing about corporate surveillance to me is the arrogance of the prediction mechanisms.

                                          These algorithms build a model of me based on my clicks from three years ago and then try to trap me in that loop forever. They show me music they think I'll like, and news they think I'll engage with, and videos they think will enrage me enough to keep me hooked to their platforms. They are actively trying to flatten my personality into something easy to monetize.

                                          As most people I've seen say out loud, "Privacy as a concept is way beyond hiding secrets. A part of it also means preserving your capacity to change. To be surprised. To be inconsistent."

                                          If I could tell every human one thing, it would be to actively refuse to be a predictable data point. Mess up their metrics. In whatever way you are capable of.

                                          #socialmedia #algorithmicbias #privacy #dataprivacy #quotes #foss #facebook #linkedin #llm #noai #enshittification #reading #books #baking #art #philosophy #adhd #depression #cybersecurity

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                                          @pheonix Isn’t this in a way an even more sinister form of the 50s advertisement that the ”tradwife” aesthetic is derived from?

                                          By pushing the same ideal of womanhood from all angles possible the goal was to currate a standardised adult female consumer unit to which it’d be easier to push additional uniformed goods and services.

                                          Advanced #capitalism deters #authenticity as it makes high volume peddling harder, and thus the production-consumption-loop less efficient.

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