also, found this from a tumblr post

My problem with “it’s not my job to educate you!” is that if you’re an activist then yes, it is your job, that’s part of what activism is. If you call yourself an activist but in the next breath refuse to offer education to those who are able to listen, your activism is performative/disingenuous at best and actively harmful at worst. Telling people to “google it” it not helpful when google has become increasingly unusable and bogged down with advertisements and unusable results - not to mention, not everyone can be expected to tell the difference between accurate sources and, say, dogwhistle-y propaganda messages, especially if they are new to leftism. You could be doing more to push them towards the right than to help them understand leftism, all because of “purity politics” or clique behaviors or superiority complexes or whatever it is that’s causing all these people to behave this way.

Can’t count the number of times I’ve had “allies” try to call me out for speaking about my own experience. Identity politics is a cancer.

Not everyone is an activist though. And even those that are, they need down time sometimes. I get it’s tough for those on the spectrum to understand, but in this context, let people at the table just play the fucking game.

Ask politely, show a genuine interest, and don’t try to undermine what they say. Also read the room if it’s going into a topic that someone doesn’t feel comfortable talking about and be ready to learn another day!

The meme is making the effort required to be educated or a fascist equivalent when they are not.

Being a fascist is intellectually easy.

Got a problem? Blame migrants Can’t get ahead? Blame Jews Can’t afford a house? Black people got too uppity

It’s a one trick pony, all problems are caused by someone else and I’m perfect.

Understanding the systemic reasons why women still aren’t paid the same as men or why a disproportionate amount of African Americans are incarcerated is hard and requires a lot of foundational groundwork to overcome the huge capitalist propaganda machine.

Yeah I’m not reading all that. Google it.

We’re talking about a fucking game, not an undergraduate ethics class.

Not with me you fucking won’t.

You are a little too comfortable telling people how to talk. I’m seeing that a lot these days.

Thanks for the honest answer !

When we tell people not to murder, we are telling them how to act. When we tell people not to be racist, we are telling people how to talk. Telling people not to do things is a normal thing to do. The content of what is being told is the important part.

Is there a particular part of the op that you find friction with?

you’re kind of saying that this school of thought isn’t for everyone?

when, really, everyone would benefit from it.

Even though I do not have a problem with treating the things mentioned with respect, something about this text irritates me, but I can’t put my finger on it. Which feels really weird because I don’t like the feeling of something being off even though I can’t spot anything that actually bothers me.

Out of couriosity: I have never played the game, so… is the game actually unplayable if you decide to be intolerant against one or more of these? (As in: Is the tolerance and representation part of the core mechanics or is this just meant as a statement?)

Everything from the rules of the game to the GM guide to the pre written game settings are written with the assumption that players and the gm will be respectful and kind, but no you could absolutely try to play the game about connection-seeking queers fighting oppression and finding family as a bigot

There’s a world of difference between hearing a term you’re not familiar with and saying something like, “I’ve never heard that before, would you mind telling me what it means?” and learning about someone’s marginalization and asking them a bunch of questions about it. I’m guessing this rule is targeting the latter.

Personally, if I meet someone who is marginalized, I avoid talking about their marginalization unless they bring it up and are clearly interested in talking about it. If they don’t want to be defined by it or be asked a bunch of questions about it, then that’s their right.

How on earth did you stumble across a comment that is 5 days old?

No objection with your framing. In fact, I tend to agree. My disagreement was the narrow / binary lens applied by the previous commentor. Their perspective (‘your responsibility to learn’) is/was an extremely dismissive approach.

How on earth did you stumble across a comment that is 5 days old?

I’m only subscribed to like three communities so I see a lot of the same posts when I sort by subscribed.

We both agree that it’s not all or nothing. It’s unreasonable to say that asking a good faith question is always bad, just like it’s unreasonable to demand someone answer questions about their marginalization. I was just pitching in my thoughts as to where the line is.