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Memory crisis expected to last until 2031, supply already allocated for 2026

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  • C Random Dent

    I’m genuinely putting money aside for when the AI bubble pops so I can hopefully hoover up some cheap computer parts lol

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    trainguyrom@reddthat.com
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    #49

    I keep a separate savings account for things like that. I just call it “upgrade” in my banking app. Its money specifically earmarked for any kind of entirely-optional big purchases, like computer upgrades, server upgrades, home theatre upgrades, etc. I also have one earmarked for replacing my current cars and one for vacations, plus of course my emergency fund

    The only problem with this approach is I tend to hoard my money and want to see my savings account go up, so I really don’t end up spending as much as I could on myself. Like I have an entire computer’s worth in the “upgrade” account right now

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      Mugita Sokio
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      This, from Mark Moss: https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=ttMDQB0TJJc

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      • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

        They’ll sell it.

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        Mugita Sokio
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        I don’t think they’ll sell their RAM, as the RAM fabs from China will be strictly used for their tech. We won’t get squat, because we squandered when Crucial shut down their consumer production.

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        • L Kairos

          I’m sorry, the game streaming platform can’t be bothered to make a client for Linux??

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          Mugita Sokio
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          They’re making one already, because cloud gaming is the future of gaming. It’s literally 1984 on that front.

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          • Cevilia (she/they/…)C Cevilia (she/they/…)

            To spell this out clearly, the reason RAM has quadrupled in price is that a huge quantity of RAM that hasn’t been produced yet has been bought with money that doesn’t exist to populate GPUs that also haven’t been produced to go in datacenters that haven’t been built powered by infrastructure that may never exist to meet a demand that doesn’t exist at all to make profit margins that mathematically can’t exist while economists talk about this thing they call the “rational markets hypothesis”.

            (source)

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            yesbutactuallymaybe@lemmy.ca
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            This meme is pretty new, like from the future, but it checks out.

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            • Y yesbutactuallymaybe@lemmy.ca

              This meme is pretty new, like from the future, but it checks out.

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              orbitz@lemmy.ca
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              Okay I’m old is this a actually newer meme or was it a joke to post the reply?

              It does sound familiar (like close to a movie line) but also sounds accurate. If the bubble pops so much memory available cheaper.

              Mean I’m only 1 year into my PC build but I tend to do them every 4 years or so…crap that’s only 5 years from now I thought it was longer, but still lot closer than I thought from first read. Least at this age time goes by quickly, for better or worse heh.

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              • O orbitz@lemmy.ca

                Okay I’m old is this a actually newer meme or was it a joke to post the reply?

                It does sound familiar (like close to a movie line) but also sounds accurate. If the bubble pops so much memory available cheaper.

                Mean I’m only 1 year into my PC build but I tend to do them every 4 years or so…crap that’s only 5 years from now I thought it was longer, but still lot closer than I thought from first read. Least at this age time goes by quickly, for better or worse heh.

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                zamboni_driver@lemmy.ca
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                It’s not an original comment.

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                • Mugita SokioM Mugita Sokio

                  And yet, we pay for most of it with our PII. In other words, we’re getting doxxed big time with these surveillance services.

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                  dubyakay@lemmy.ca
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                  #56

                  Why’d you remove your upvote on your own comment?

                  Edit: wtheck you do this on all your comments.

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                  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

                    What I heard on the ground floor from various system integrators, components manufacturers, and other companies, is memory supply has been tied up for all of 2026, and that shortages could last as long as until 2031.

                    Sure it’s scuttlebutt but wouldn’t surprise me as being true.

                    Just a moment...

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                    chunes@lemmy.world
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                    eli5 why doesn’t someone produce ram and refuse to sell to AI companies and make a bloody fortune?

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                    • C chunes@lemmy.world

                      eli5 why doesn’t someone produce ram and refuse to sell to AI companies and make a bloody fortune?

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                      mholiv@lemmy.world
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                      #58

                      Because the AI companies will just offer to buy at a higher price.

                      If you refuse to sell to AI companies you will make a small fortune yes. If you sell to the highest bidder you’ll make a larger fortune.

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                      • D dubyakay@lemmy.ca

                        Why’d you remove your upvote on your own comment?

                        Edit: wtheck you do this on all your comments.

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                        Mugita Sokio
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                        That’s for unbiased upvote and downvote totals. I did this with all my comments, though I periodically check to see if I missed any. I decided to get that done one day, and I never looked back.

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                        • Z zedotelhado@lemmy.world

                          You are not wrong about the reallocation part. However, if you see the actions from micron (fuck you micron BTW), they are going all in and having a shit storm in PR on the consumer side. If they are taking these risks without proper assurances, then they are utterly deranged

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                          cazssiew@lemmy.world
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                          I’m not sure there’s a way to have proper assurances for such vast sums of silicon and money. You’re going with the flow of the speculation at that point. If it pops, their best hope is for bailouts to save them (not unrealistic, but their interlocutors will then be governments, not corporations).

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                          • Z zedotelhado@lemmy.world

                            You are not wrong about the reallocation part. However, if you see the actions from micron (fuck you micron BTW), they are going all in and having a shit storm in PR on the consumer side. If they are taking these risks without proper assurances, then they are utterly deranged

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                            matlag
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                            Promises of buying only work if the buyer still exists at the time you produce the goods.
                            Besides, I’m pretty sure that the main buyers type on the consumer side are PC and phone makers. So they could go back there almost unharmed.

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                            • PavidusP Pavidus

                              The solution is surprisingly simple:

                              “Sorry, I can’t use your online services. My electronics died. Oh well.” 🤷‍♂️

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                              matlag
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                              “No worries! We just launched Chat-Phone: a cellphone totally connected to ChatGPT. It has almost no capability by itself: poor CPU, min RAM, min/no storage, etc. But it is always connected to ChatGPT!
                              BTW: because of RAM shortage, we are the only smartphone maker in the world now!”
                              The phone is 50$, but you need the premium subscription for it to work…

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                              • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                eli5 why doesn’t someone produce ram and refuse to sell to AI companies and make a bloody fortune?

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                                coleslaw4145@lemmy.world
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                                Samsung

                                SK Hynix

                                Micron

                                That’s why.

                                Developing DRAM manufacturing capability is insanely difficult and hugely expensive. Almost all the worlds DRAM comes from one of these three names and they’re already making their fortune selling to AI companies. They don’t care about how many penny’s people like you or me can scrape together.

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                                • C cazssiew@lemmy.world

                                  I’m not sure there’s a way to have proper assurances for such vast sums of silicon and money. You’re going with the flow of the speculation at that point. If it pops, their best hope is for bailouts to save them (not unrealistic, but their interlocutors will then be governments, not corporations).

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                                  zedotelhado@lemmy.world
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                                  You do have a good point that at a certain point it is not possible to have assurances as in values. However, there are other assurances that can be even more important, such as, contractual ones. If they do not have the proper assurances at that level too up to a certain point, then everyone is highly blindsided on the c suite.

                                  But my biggest point has to do with burning a massive bridge, the consumers, and take a dive into this nonsense.

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                                  • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

                                    What I heard on the ground floor from various system integrators, components manufacturers, and other companies, is memory supply has been tied up for all of 2026, and that shortages could last as long as until 2031.

                                    Sure it’s scuttlebutt but wouldn’t surprise me as being true.

                                    Just a moment...

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                                    mehblah@lemmy.world
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                                    When the bubble pops most of that gear will be useless for consumer use.

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                                    • C chunes@lemmy.world

                                      eli5 why doesn’t someone produce ram and refuse to sell to AI companies and make a bloody fortune?

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                                      thomaswilliams@lemmy.world
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                                      If there was really any demand more DRAM would be being produced.

                                      The reality is most datacentre companies have warehouses full of DRAM and GPUs waiting for datacentres to be built. By the time they will be built, the GPUs they have stashed will be obsolete.

                                      PC sales - and PCs use a lot more DRAM than phones - are falling off a cliff.

                                      So there is no real future demand, that’s why no ones building chip fabs.

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                                      • I inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world

                                        What I heard on the ground floor from various system integrators, components manufacturers, and other companies, is memory supply has been tied up for all of 2026, and that shortages could last as long as until 2031.

                                        Sure it’s scuttlebutt but wouldn’t surprise me as being true.

                                        Just a moment...

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                                        hugenerd@lemmy.ca
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                                        Penis! I picked a fine time to finally want to upgrade my Win 7 laptop from 2011.

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                                        • C Random Dent

                                          I’m genuinely putting money aside for when the AI bubble pops so I can hopefully hoover up some cheap computer parts lol

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                                          SpaceCadet
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                                          There won’t be “cheap computer parts”, it will all be datacenter junk that’s useless to a consumer, like rackmounted servers with insanely loud fans and “GPUs” that can’t output an image or play games.

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